Someone got off lightly

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Austin Prefect

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887 posts

6 months

Thursday 27th February
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My local paper features the case of someone doing 111 in a single carriageway 60 (says A416 at Great Brickhill, maybe a misprint for A4146.)

£576 fine + £90 costs + £230'surcharge. Six points.

No ban for 50 over the limit seems very unusual. The same paper reports someone else getting £215 and three points for 65 in a 50.

Caught by 'manned speeding equipment' apparently. Does this mean a van with an operator or a police car? A camera van on a non trunk road NSL is a bit unusual.

LosingGrip

8,287 posts

173 months

Thursday 27th February
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Austin Prefect said:
My local paper features the case of someone doing 111 in a single carriageway 60 (says A416 at Great Brickhill, maybe a misprint for A4146.)

£576 fine + £90 costs + £230'surcharge. Six points.

No ban for 50 over the limit seems very unusual. The same paper reports someone else getting £215 and three points for 65 in a 50.

Caught by 'manned speeding equipment' apparently. Does this mean a van with an operator or a police car? A camera van on a non trunk road NSL is a bit unusual.
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/speeding-revised-2017/

Points are within the guidance. Fine will be income based so hard to comment on really.

I wonder if a guilty plea at the first chance means they will go for points first rather than a ban?

agtlaw

7,114 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th February
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Austin Prefect said:
My local paper features the case of someone doing 111 in a single carriageway 60 (says A416 at Great Brickhill, maybe a misprint for A4146.)

£576 fine + £90 costs + £230'surcharge. Six points.

No ban for 50 over the limit seems very unusual. The same paper reports someone else getting £215 and three points for 65 in a 50.

Caught by 'manned speeding equipment' apparently. Does this mean a van with an operator or a police car? A camera van on a non trunk road NSL is a bit unusual.
My personal best is 120 mph. No ban.


agtlaw

7,114 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th February
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LosingGrip said:
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...

Points are within the guidance. Fine will be income based so hard to comment on really.

I wonder if a guilty plea at the first chance means they will go for points first rather than a ban?
111/60 is much more likely a ban rather than points, regardless of plea.

davek_964

10,066 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th February
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It was a long time ago (about 35 years, which makes me feel a tad old) - but I got stopped once by a police bike (I was also on a motorcycle). I was told I was doing 98mph on the 60mph road, and 115mph on the dual carriageway. He was feeling generous so only booked me for 115mph.......

Had to go to court - already had 6 points, and fully expected to be banned. The question was simply how long for.

I was fairly astounded to walk from court with an additional 3 points and a £250 fine. To this day, I still don't know how I managed that.

Mr Pointy

12,490 posts

173 months

Thursday 27th February
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agtlaw said:
My personal best is 120 mph. No ban.
Presumably in professional capacity, not as a driver smile

Essel

527 posts

160 months

Thursday 27th February
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Mr Pointy said:
agtlaw said:
My personal best is 120 mph. No ban.
Presumably in professional capacity, not as a driver smile
Could have been both for the same offence! wink

Tony1963

5,660 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th February
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agtlaw said:
My personal best is 120 mph. No ban.
About ten years ago one of Wattisham’s Apache pilots was caught doing 140 on the A11 in his Aston. No ban.

It certainly stirred up a little bit of anti-army and anti-officer feeling.

Busa mav

2,751 posts

168 months

Thursday 27th February
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Go to Spain for a real bargain.
I overtook an innocuous white Seat at over 200 kph, when the car lit up I was able to slow a bit, but he clocked me at 171kph.
After lots of phone calls to their seniors, I was offered the chance to pay €200, but if I paid on the spot with a card it was €100 !

Not even a stern warning , just a reminder that the limit in Spain was 120kph, NOT mph .

Edited by Busa mav on Thursday 27th February 11:17

Howitzer

2,862 posts

230 months

Thursday 27th February
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123.8mph in a 60 limit. Was a motorway policeman who tagged me with a camera mounted in his unmarked 5 series from a lay-by up ahead.

Passed the attitude test, was honest with the court, 30 day ban, £500 fine, down on my licence as an SP30. Everyone was rather pleasant apart from the local reporter.

Person before me had a fine over £2000 and I think a 6 month ban from memory.

Dave!

martinbiz

3,574 posts

159 months

Thursday 27th February
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Howitzer said:
123.8mph in a 60 limit. Was a motorway policeman who tagged me with a camera mounted in his unmarked 5 series from a lay-by up ahead.

Passed the attitude test, was honest with the court, 30 day ban, £500 fine, down on my licence as an SP30. Everyone was rather pleasant apart from the local reporter.

Person before me had a fine over £2000 and I think a 6 month ban from memory.

Dave!
It would likely have been on a motorway for that kind of fine and a high earner. possibly the 6 months for totting up

2fast748

1,189 posts

209 months

Thursday 27th February
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I once (2002-ish) got a fixed penalty (3 points/£60) for 103MPH on a Welsh NSL Dual carriageway (police car hidden on on-slip).

A short while later I got into far more trouble for a lower speed, never quite got banned but my solicitor earned his fee that day.

Busa mav

2,751 posts

168 months

Thursday 27th February
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martinbiz said:
It would likely have been on a motorway for that kind of fine and a high earner. possibly the 6 months for totting up
Wouldn’t it have been SP50 if it was motorway?

AB

18,226 posts

209 months

Thursday 27th February
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agtlaw said:
My personal best is 120 mph. No ban.
My personal best is 125 NB on the M6... 6 points and a fine. 15 years ago.

kiethton

14,218 posts

194 months

Thursday 27th February
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Managed "somewhere between 105 and 110 and bullying other cars out of the way" - 6pts, £300 fine (changed my payroll for a massive pension payment for rest of the year to be able to declare a lower net earnings number and prove it if asked, walked out of court and changed it back without a deduction made)

Also done for 116 in a 50, thankfully a Leopard (c£10) to the guy at the roadside made that one go away

Mikebentley

7,313 posts

154 months

Thursday 27th February
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AB said:
agtlaw said:
My personal best is 120 mph. No ban.
My personal best is 125 NB on the M6... 6 points and a fine. 15 years ago.
Mine 122 on a dual carriageway. 5 Points £100 fine. I think it was about 1998 in a 1989 Renault 21 Turbo. It did make me slow down.

martinbiz

3,574 posts

159 months

Thursday 27th February
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Busa mav said:
Wouldn’t it have been SP50 if it was motorway?
I wasn't talking about the poster, but the chap he said had got a 2k fine before him

J__Wood

458 posts

75 months

Friday 28th February
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kiethton said:
Also done for 116 in a 50, thankfully a Leopard (c£10) to the guy at the roadside made that one go away
You keep a hungry leopard in your car ready to set on speed trap operators? Sounds more effective than Waze and cheap too at R200?

bimsb6

8,420 posts

235 months

Saturday 1st March
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My best was slowing down from 140, got clocked at 124 , a6 barton cutting just north of luton dual carriageway 70mph limit, I was the fastest of the day , £150 3 points (sp30) . A long time ago although I considered that a result.

kiethton

14,218 posts

194 months

Saturday 1st March
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J__Wood said:
kiethton said:
Also done for 116 in a 50, thankfully a Leopard (c£10) to the guy at the roadside made that one go away
You keep a hungry leopard in your car ready to set on speed trap operators? Sounds more effective than Waze and cheap too at R200?
Haha that pre-dates Waze, another Leopard lost when Waze let me down this winter, more pathetic 103 in an 80 though