How long after a King/Queen is dead can a company....

[paul.deitch]

use the royal warrant?

The reason I ask is that I have 6 old Waring & Gillow dining chairs with lots of inlay and underneath they have a metal label stating by appointment to his majesty the King and I would like to try and find out how old they are or at least what would be the latest date that the label could be used.

Lovely things with a lot of "patina". I want to get the loose joints fixed but keep the very worn leather seats just as they are.

[paintman]

paul.deitch said:

use the royal warrant?

The reason I ask is that I have 6 old Waring & Gillow dining chairs with lots of inlay and underneath they have a metal label stating by appointment to his majesty the King and I would like to try and find out how old they are or at least what would be the latest date that the label could be used.

Lovely things with a lot of "patina". I want to get the loose joints fixed but keep the very worn leather seats just as they are.

"Warrants are currently granted by the King and the Queen.

Warrants issued by the Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother automatically expired no later than 2007, five years after her death.

Upon the death of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh in April 2021, warrants issued in his name became void.
However, warrant holders are permitted to continue to use the Royal Arms and the legend after the death of a grantor, usually for up to two years.
The same occurred upon the death of Queen Elizabeth II, and upon the Prince of Wales becoming king in September 2022. In May 2024, King Charles III and Queen Camilla granted their first royal warrants of appointment of the new reign.
According to The Guardian, William, Prince of Wales will grant warrants from 2025".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_warrant_of_app...

Edited by paintman on Monday 3rd March 12:47

[vaud]

"The Royal Warrant will become void but the company or individual may continue to use the Royal Arms in connection with the business usually for up to two years, provided there is no significant change within the company concerned. The Royal Household reviews Warrant grants upon a change of the reigning Sovereign."

https://www.royalwarrant.org/frequently-asked-ques...

Honestly, google can be better than PH sometimes

[paul.deitch]

vaud said:

"The Royal Warrant will become void but the company or individual may continue to use the Royal Arms in connection with the business usually for up to two years, provided there is no significant change within the company concerned. The Royal Household reviews Warrant grants upon a change of the reigning Sovereign."

https://www.royalwarrant.org/frequently-asked-ques...

Honestly, google can be better than PH sometimes

Thank you, so they would have been made before Feb 6, 1952 + 2 years. I had estimated late 40s, early 50s. Brilliant!

[vaud]

If you want a value as well, do an advanced search on eBay to include sold items.
Or try the various uk online antique aggregators for something similar.

[paul.deitch]

vaud said:

If you want a value as well, do an advanced search on eBay to include sold items.
Or try the various uk online antique aggregators for something similar.

Definitely don't want to sell. They're part of our interesting family history
I'm remotely connected to the Dashwood/Hellfire family and we inherited them from that side of the family together with some fascinating stuff including photo albums from 1890 and later.

[Simpo Two]

paul.deitch said:

I'm remotely connected to the Dashwood/Hellfire family and we inherited them from that side of the family together with some fascinating stuff including photo albums from 1890 and later.

Had PH been around in those days, no doubt Sir Francis would have made a fine PHer! https://www.visitgardens.co.uk/sir-francis-dashwoo...