NIP for unknown car?
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The missus daughter got two NIPs through the post today, one dated December and one dated January.
Weird thing is that the car is completely unknown to her or any of us. I assume the delay in time is that it went to the registered keeper and they have named her which has then sent out these two letters.
For one of the dates/times she was staying at a friends house, with witnesses, and for the other date/time she was at home cooking dinner for us (and even has a social media picture post at the time she was apparently speeding in said unknown vehicle).
Obviously she will reply saying WTF are you on about (or words to that effect) but why would someone even do this and what benefit does it gain them. Surely whoever named her would be charged with providing false information/perverting the course of justice?
I have a sneaking suspicion it's one of an ex-boyfriends scummy mates who's probably already banned but obviously have no way of finding out for sure.
Weird thing is that the car is completely unknown to her or any of us. I assume the delay in time is that it went to the registered keeper and they have named her which has then sent out these two letters.
For one of the dates/times she was staying at a friends house, with witnesses, and for the other date/time she was at home cooking dinner for us (and even has a social media picture post at the time she was apparently speeding in said unknown vehicle).
Obviously she will reply saying WTF are you on about (or words to that effect) but why would someone even do this and what benefit does it gain them. Surely whoever named her would be charged with providing false information/perverting the course of justice?
I have a sneaking suspicion it's one of an ex-boyfriends scummy mates who's probably already banned but obviously have no way of finding out for sure.
She needs to reply and give the information she has in relation to the vehicle and incident. Seems like that will be : I have no information to give in relation to this matter. While ticking I Was Not The Driver.
Whether she adds in the speculation about what may have occurred is up to her but is just that, speculation.
Whether she adds in the speculation about what may have occurred is up to her but is just that, speculation.
jondude said:
I don't know the actual legal side of it, but I would presume once she denies this and makes it clear why, the entire prosecution goes back to the registered keeper.
Can understand if it feels a bit stressful, though. For if he maintains it was her, what then?
The police are likely to query the insurance details. That usually clears matters up when a completely unconnected driver is nominated. Can understand if it feels a bit stressful, though. For if he maintains it was her, what then?
2020vision said:
The police are likely to query the insurance details. That usually clears matters up when a completely unconnected driver is nominated.
I had someone take out insurance fraudulently in my name once, resulting in an NIP for a car I have never owned.No money had been taken from my own accounts, so I only found out when I got in conversation with the police force concerned and they confirmed that was how they had contacted me.
I logged it on action fraud who contacted the (online) insurer to cancel the insurance.
According to Action Fraud it’s not an uncommon event, if your personal details are on the companies house website. All they need is stolen credit card details and a email address to open the account.
I lived in my last house for 20 years and had two V5's drop onto the mat for cars not known to me nor owned by me - both in different names. Nothing exciting - a Fiesta 1.0 and a Citroen C4 from memory.
I sent them both back to the DVLA explaining neither was owned by me and nobody of that name had ever lived at the address as I was the first owner of it when newly built.
Never heard anymore about either but I followed advice provided at the time which was intended to ensure no NIP's or parking fines etc. landed on the mat and led to further issues trying to unwind them.
I sent them both back to the DVLA explaining neither was owned by me and nobody of that name had ever lived at the address as I was the first owner of it when newly built.
Never heard anymore about either but I followed advice provided at the time which was intended to ensure no NIP's or parking fines etc. landed on the mat and led to further issues trying to unwind them.
Cheers for the replies.
She's tried to reply via the online portal but it keeps saying 'There's been a problem submitting your response, try again'. Not sure how there can be an error when it's mainly check boxes and a couple of sentences. Looking online appears to be a common problem across multiple areas that use the same portal.
Will call them tomorrow.
There's never been a V5 or any other documentation for that vehicle turn up at the house so it seems to be someone has given her name rather than the first NIP to the owner/keeper.
She's tried to reply via the online portal but it keeps saying 'There's been a problem submitting your response, try again'. Not sure how there can be an error when it's mainly check boxes and a couple of sentences. Looking online appears to be a common problem across multiple areas that use the same portal.
Will call them tomorrow.
There's never been a V5 or any other documentation for that vehicle turn up at the house so it seems to be someone has given her name rather than the first NIP to the owner/keeper.
The DIL might want to respond in writing, providing any information which is in her power to give. That may well consist of little more than 'I am unaware of and have no connection to the vehicle in question'. As long as she tells them what she does know, she'll have satisfied her obligations under s.172 RTA 1988.
Send the response via a tracked delivery service, ensuring it is delivered within the permitted 28 days.
Send the response via a tracked delivery service, ensuring it is delivered within the permitted 28 days.
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