NIP cherry broken
Discussion
I've been driving since 1999 and this is the first NIP that I've ever received. Allegedly speeding in a 50MPH average speed zone, Dartford tunnel approach.
However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
bunchofkeys said:
I've been driving since 1999 and this is the first NIP that I've ever received. Allegedly speeding in a 50MPH average speed zone, Dartford tunnel approach.
However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
No loop hole for you am afraid, it is assumed that once something is posted it is considered served (or words to that effect I cant remember the exact wording). Otherwise everyone would throw away the first letter and never receive points. It should include a speed on there for the offence, this will tell you how likely you are to get offered a course. Complete form and return (or do it online) and just get on with it. However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
bunchofkeys said:
I've been driving since 1999 and this is the first NIP that I've ever received. Allegedly speeding in a 50MPH average speed zone, Dartford tunnel approach.
However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
I think that you may not be so lucky. However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
It is only the first letter that needs to arrive within the 14 day rule.
If you haven't received the initial letter, how do you know that it would have arrived outside of the 14 days?
Mandat said:
bunchofkeys said:
I've been driving since 1999 and this is the first NIP that I've ever received. Allegedly speeding in a 50MPH average speed zone, Dartford tunnel approach.
However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
I think that you may not be so lucky. However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
It is only the first letter that needs to arrive within the 14 day rule.
If you haven't received the initial letter, how do you know that it would have arrived outside of the 14 days?
But i see what you're saying.
Oh well, will fill in my details and begrudgingly send this back to them.
I assume that a follow up letter will be recieved?
bunchofkeys said:
Mandat said:
bunchofkeys said:
I've been driving since 1999 and this is the first NIP that I've ever received. Allegedly speeding in a 50MPH average speed zone, Dartford tunnel approach.
However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
I think that you may not be so lucky. However, the letter is a follow up to the initial letter which has never been received.
So, what happens next?
I gather that i still need to reply to identify that i was the driver. But there is now the "loop hole" of the 14 day NIP.
All my details are correct in terms of the V5, Insurance and driving licence.
This letter was dated on the 3rd April, offence date was the 2nd March.
Could anyone point me to where i can find a template please, so that i can write to the police to point this out?
Thank you
It is only the first letter that needs to arrive within the 14 day rule.
If you haven't received the initial letter, how do you know that it would have arrived outside of the 14 days?
A notice issued by first class post is deemed to have been served (delivered) two business days after posting, unless the contrary is proved.
The difficulty, as always, is proving the notice was not delivered within those 14 days.
Beckham had evidence provided by Bentley, Giddens had his postie, but unless the OP has something similar, then they are likely facing an uphill battle to convince a court of failed service.
The difficulty, as always, is proving the notice was not delivered within those 14 days.
Beckham had evidence provided by Bentley, Giddens had his postie, but unless the OP has something similar, then they are likely facing an uphill battle to convince a court of failed service.
SS2. said:
A notice issued by first class post is deemed to have been served (delivered) two business days after posting, unless the contrary is proved.
The difficulty, as always, is proving the notice was not delivered within those 14 days.
Beckham had evidence provided by Bentley, Giddens had his postie, but unless the OP has something similar, then they are likely facing an uphill battle to convince a court of failed service.
And don't forget with Gidden even that didn't convince a court and was finally won on appealThe difficulty, as always, is proving the notice was not delivered within those 14 days.
Beckham had evidence provided by Bentley, Giddens had his postie, but unless the OP has something similar, then they are likely facing an uphill battle to convince a court of failed service.
The don’t post the 50mph speed well enough for Dartford.
Especially approaching the bridge at night if you don’t have prior knowledge it’s easy to miss as you are looking for the big gantry limits per the rest of the motorway which they don’t display.
If traffic is light it’s easy to miss the start.
Especially approaching the bridge at night if you don’t have prior knowledge it’s easy to miss as you are looking for the big gantry limits per the rest of the motorway which they don’t display.
If traffic is light it’s easy to miss the start.
bunchofkeys said:
Form was sent back, recorded post. I did also send a letterhead to indicate that i didn't receive the first letter, due to reasons that were beyond my control.
So waiting to hear back from them.
They wont be interested in the letter head. Could you not have filled it in online and saved the messing about?So waiting to hear back from them.
trickywoo said:
The don’t post the 50mph speed well enough for Dartford.
Especially approaching the bridge at night if you don’t have prior knowledge it’s easy to miss as you are looking for the big gantry limits per the rest of the motorway which they don’t display.
If traffic is light it’s easy to miss the start.
Maybe you are right:Especially approaching the bridge at night if you don’t have prior knowledge it’s easy to miss as you are looking for the big gantry limits per the rest of the motorway which they don’t display.
If traffic is light it’s easy to miss the start.
2020vision said:
trickywoo said:
The don’t post the 50mph speed well enough for Dartford.
Especially approaching the bridge at night if you don’t have prior knowledge it’s easy to miss as you are looking for the big gantry limits per the rest of the motorway which they don’t display.
If traffic is light it’s easy to miss the start.
Maybe you are right:Especially approaching the bridge at night if you don’t have prior knowledge it’s easy to miss as you are looking for the big gantry limits per the rest of the motorway which they don’t display.
If traffic is light it’s easy to miss the start.
Edited by trickywoo on Friday 11th April 11:05
trickywoo said:
2020vision said:
trickywoo said:
The don’t post the 50mph speed well enough for Dartford.
Especially approaching the bridge at night if you don’t have prior knowledge it’s easy to miss as you are looking for the big gantry limits per the rest of the motorway which they don’t display.
If traffic is light it’s easy to miss the start.
Maybe you are right:Especially approaching the bridge at night if you don’t have prior knowledge it’s easy to miss as you are looking for the big gantry limits per the rest of the motorway which they don’t display.
If traffic is light it’s easy to miss the start.
Edited by trickywoo on Friday 11th April 11:05
(This is not to say I agree with the limit but that's another matter)
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