New M6 speed cameras?

[tomj_]

There seem to be some new cameras which have gone up on the M6 northbound near junction 18. One set on the previous HADECs arm, then another about a mile or so down the road on their own pole. Anyone got the foggiest? Photos below.




Whist I have seen some newer and more 'armoured' HADECs going up on both the M1 and the M6 in places recently, these are very different.

Something to stop speeding up between camera gantries with speed restrictions?

[CLK-GTR]

Looks like the new Vector SR cash machines that dont flash.

[irc]

Similar to half a dozen set up around Glasgow on urban roads.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/NNveRTN9SZxhaJCPA

"Shona Gaffney
Police Scotland website says "The new Vector SR spot speed cameras are fully contained traffic enforcement systems which differ from the more traditional fixed Gatso speed cameras. The cameras use tracking radar for spot speed enforcement and have multi lane coverage, meaning they can enforce traffic travelling in both directions. The system uses infra-red technology which allows images to be captured without the need for camera flash'."

[2020vision]

CLK-GTR said:

Looks like the new Vector SR cash machines that dont flash.

No they don’t
The only similarity is the colour.

[CLK-GTR]

2020vision said:

CLK-GTR said:

Looks like the new Vector SR cash machines that dont flash.

No they don t
The only similarity is the colour.

And the two cameras and the two radar panels. And the pole. Nothing else similar at all.

[Billy Eyelash]

If the cameras' purpose is deterrence, then the lack of a visible flash makes them less effective.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Thank goodness the people deciding to improve our lives in such fashion are elected, consider the implications of their actions and have a good pot of money to spend on this mission critical stuff.

Thank goodness.

[Terminator X]

irc said:

Similar to half a dozen set up around Glasgow on urban roads.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/NNveRTN9SZxhaJCPA

"Shona Gaffney
Police Scotland website says "The new Vector SR spot speed cameras are fully contained traffic enforcement systems which differ from the more traditional fixed Gatso speed cameras. The cameras use tracking radar for spot speed enforcement and have multi lane coverage, meaning they can enforce traffic travelling in both directions. The system uses infra-red technology which allows images to be captured without the need for camera flash'."

Might shock some people coming the other way!

Previous IR camera's used to glow purple at night, so you could tell if they were on or not eg dummy camera's used to be a thing.

TX.

[whimsical ninja]

Billy Eyelash said:

If the cameras' purpose is deterrence, then the lack of a visible flash makes them less effective.

I would have thought the big sign on the front of the pole was the deterrent. Anything else is just Darwinian

[abzmike]

Bit like the average speed cameras on the A90 between Dundee and Aberdeen.

[Glenn63]

They are the new cameras that point straight down into your car/cab catching people on phones/no seat belts, like this;

[CHLEMCBC]

whimsical ninja said:

Billy Eyelash said:

If the cameras' purpose is deterrence, then the lack of a visible flash makes them less effective.

I would have thought the big sign on the front of the pole was the deterrent. Anything else is just Darwinian

There are big signs all over Stsaffordshire and only about 14 functional cameras, so the deterrent is moot.

[GolfDragon]

It doesn’t bother me too much. Those cameras are bright yellow and are very visible.

It’s not like before when each gantry had them hiding behind the overhead signs and you’d hope Waze was right about an upcoming speed camera or just stick to the limit. When it’s a hidden camera then it annoys me more.

And if the cameras punish people who drive around scrolling through TikTok, Instagram, Facebook etc. I’m all for it from a road safety point of view

[Julian Thompson]

Glenn63 said:

They are the new cameras that point straight down into your car/cab catching people on phones/no seat belts, like this;

I don’t think so - those ones were on gantries looking down. Those cameras in this pic would not get the angle

[Plymo]

I've been past these in both directions now, my guess would be that it's 2 new types being tested.

The one on the gantry looks like a smaller version of the HADECS3 but without a flash.
Quite sneaky really as they are a lot less visible than the current ones. I'm assuming they'll have the same embarrassing issue as the current ones!

The one on its own pole is just before a variable limit sign, and is pointing towards it, I'm guessing it's a different type that can take the speed measurement "gotcha" photo and the speed limit sign "evidence" photo in one frame.

Frankly that one sounds like a better design if that is how it works, firstly as if the photo of the limit and the photo of the "speeding lunatic doing 28mph at 2am" could be in the same frame - potentially avoiding the issue they're having at the moment.
It's also really visible and in advance of the sign! Definitely seems much "fairer"

[Simpo Two]

For country that's skint we seem to have unlimited money for this kind of thing.

[tomj_]

Plymo said:

I've been past these in both directions now, my guess would be that it's 2 new types being tested.
The one on its own pole is just before a variable limit sign, and is pointing towards it, I'm guessing it's a different type that can take the speed measurement "gotcha" photo and the speed limit sign "evidence" photo in one frame.

So long as it only gets you once you're past the sign and not beforehand...

[havoc]

Simpo Two said:

For country that's skint we seem to have unlimited money for this kind of thing.

What, you mean making everyone's lives that little bit more miserable because we're run by corrupt control-freaks?

[Frane Selak]

Simpo Two said:

For country that's skint we seem to have unlimited money for this kind of thing.

Its a self fulfilling prophecy for them, they just buy more cameras with the revenue. Control freaks love to spend money, usually other peoples, so whether its tax or speed camera fines or whatever it generates an income for them to then flush down the toilet on anything and everything (apart from the tax payer obviously).

[Mont Blanc]

havoc said:

Simpo Two said:

For country that's skint we seem to have unlimited money for this kind of thing.

What, you mean making everyone's lives that little bit more miserable because we're run by corrupt control-freaks?

Unfortunately, I think we can blame drivers for the proliferation of speed cameras, and soon to be installed seatbelt/phone-use cameras.

Every time one of these things is installed, motorists throw themselves into the trap with gay abandon, in their tens of thousands, like lemmings, conclusively proving that we absolutely cannot be trusted to operate motor vehicles responsibly, and further cementing the case that even more of these cameras are needed.