Help please: speeding and failure to provide details

[TheBALDpuma]

Hi everyone,

I'm hoping I can get some help/guidance on what to do and what to expect.

I have just received a single justice procedure notice; simply I forgot to update the address on my V5c when I moved house a few years ago.

I did it when I remembered earlier this year (after getting a parking fine in Lidl who caught up with me much faster!)

The notice is for a speeding offence in September last year, and a subsequent failure to provide when all the correspondence went to my old address. Annoyingly I did change my driving license but forgot to do V5c.

I am guilty of speeding for sure, and I suppose I'm guilty of failing to provide (as well as also not updating my V5c too!) but I'm not sure what to do next, and whether I can have a defence for not providing because I'm an idiot who didn't do the paperwork!

Also I'm expecting 3 points for speeding, what's the deal with failure to provide?

[The Gauge]

I’m not sure other than you might be best getting legal representation?

However I’m going to stock up on popcorn as knowing PH as I do there will be plenty of posters on here suggest your limbs should be removed and pushed through a grinder as punishment

[Pica-Pica]

The Gauge said:

I m not sure other than you might be best getting legal representation?

However I m going to stock up on popcorn as knowing PH as I do there will be plenty of posters on here suggest your limbs should be removed and pushed through a grinder as punishment

Not mentioning the £1000 DVLA fine, then😏

[Shaun170]

I think failing to provide is 6 points and a fine.

[Jamescrs]

Being an idiot and not doing paperwork (to quote the OP) is not a defence unfortunately.

What paperwork have you received for this now OP? Have you received a summons requiring you to attend court or inviting you to plead guilty/ not guilty?

[TheBALDpuma]

I've received the documentation asking to plead guilty or not guilty to both speeding and failure to provide details.

[WrekinCrew]

The standard advice from FTLA is to plead not guilty to both offences.
When you get to court you find an usher / court official and say you will plead guilty to speeding if they drop the failure-to-furnish charge. This is invariably accepted.

[BertBert]

TheBALDpuma said:

I've received the documentation asking to plead guilty or not guilty to both speeding and failure to provide details.

You definitely need someone who knows stuff to advise, but here's an almost certainly erroneous line of thought....

Can you be guilty of failing to provide if you weren't asked to? Yes you are guilty of the speeding and of not updating your V5, but you didn't get the S172 request.

[agtlaw]

TheBALDpuma said:

Hi everyone,

I'm hoping I can get some help/guidance on what to do and what to expect.

I have just received a single justice procedure notice; simply I forgot to update the address on my V5c when I moved house a few years ago.

I did it when I remembered earlier this year (after getting a parking fine in Lidl who caught up with me much faster!)

The notice is for a speeding offence in September last year, and a subsequent failure to provide when all the correspondence went to my old address. Annoyingly I did change my driving license but forgot to do V5c.

I am guilty of speeding for sure, and I suppose I'm guilty of failing to provide (as well as also not updating my V5c too!) but I'm not sure what to do next, and whether I can have a defence for not providing because I'm an idiot who didn't do the paperwork!

Also I'm expecting 3 points for speeding, what's the deal with failure to provide?

Onlineplea (makeaplea) website.

Speeding. Guilty

Fail to give info. Not Guilty

Ignore nonsense from the Foolish Legal Advice forum about attending court and speaking to the usher.

Edited by agtlaw on Saturday 28th February 17:49

[TheBALDpuma]

agtlaw said:

Onlineplea (makeaplea) website.

Speeding. Guilty

Fail to give info. Not Guilty

Ignore nonsense from the Foolish Legal Advice forum about attending court and speaking to the usher.

Edited by agtlaw on Saturday 28th February 17:49

Thank you, I appreciate the advice. Will it be as simple as this, or is it worthwhile employing you for a defense/further advice?

[agtlaw]

TheBALDpuma said:

Thank you, I appreciate the advice. Will it be as simple as this, or is it worthwhile employing you for a defense/further advice?

Assuming a low excess speed then it’s too simple a case to take on but I could help with the wording of the plea responses and assist you to contact the prosecutor. No charge for this. Email is best method to contact me.

[vaud]

^^^
Which is why, on occasion, PH is a fantastic place.

[TheBALDpuma]

agtlaw said:

Assuming a low excess speed then it s too simple a case to take on but I could help with the wording of the plea responses and assist you to contact the prosecutor. No charge for this. Email is best method to contact me.

Thank you, I really appreciate that! It's very kind of you. Yes it was 36 in a 30. I'll send you an email this evening, but please no rush to reply!

[Oilchange]

agtlaw, nice one!

[Jamescrs]

agtlaw said:

Assuming a low excess speed then it s too simple a case to take on but I could help with the wording of the plea responses and assist you to contact the prosecutor. No charge for this. Email is best method to contact me.

I think admin should just close the thread a this point excellent advice from AGTlaw

[GasEngineer]

How did you manage to tax the car OP?

Don't you need the code on the reminder form that would have gone to your old address to do it

[Mabbs9]

Jamescrs said:

agtlaw said:

Assuming a low excess speed then it s too simple a case to take on but I could help with the wording of the plea responses and assist you to contact the prosecutor. No charge for this. Email is best method to contact me.

I think admin should just close the thread a this point excellent advice from AGTlaw

Agree. What a great place this can be.

[TheBALDpuma]

GasEngineer said:

How did you manage to tax the car OP?

Don't you need the code on the reminder form that would have gone to your old address to do it

My tax is is set up as a monthly payment so it just kept coming out

[GasEngineer]

TheBALDpuma said:

GasEngineer said:

How did you manage to tax the car OP?

Don't you need the code on the reminder form that would have gone to your old address to do it

My tax is is set up as a monthly payment so it just kept coming out

Ah - of course. hadn't thought of that !

[Terminator X]

Slightly off topic but the last time I had to "produce" I couldn't actually find my licence. I went to the station to explain only for the police person to constantly accuse me of refusing to produce my licence! We then went around in circles for about half an hour. In the end they dropped that part albeit still got done for speeding.

TX.