Whoops - Met Police mislay guns

[Bigends]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjd8y33ze08o

[GasEngineer]

Makes you wonder why the passer by was rootling about in a suspicious package as well as taking photos of it

[sagarich]

GasEngineer said:

Makes you wonder why the passer by was rootling about in a suspicious package as well as taking photos of it

Last thing I would do if I thought a bag looks suspicious would be to open it FFS!

[John D.]

GasEngineer said:

Makes you wonder why the passer by was rootling about in a suspicious package as well as taking photos of it

Presumably as they were suspicious.

[Richard-D]

sagarich said:

GasEngineer said:

Makes you wonder why the passer by was rootling about in a suspicious package as well as taking photos of it

Last thing I would do if I thought a bag looks suspicious would be to open it FFS!

Most people seeing a bag left sat somewhere don't think 'IED' they think 'oh, someone's forgot their bag'. The fact that they immediately reported it to the police leads me to believe they're not the problem here even if they did look in a bag outside the home of a prime target. The problem here isn't the naive (but honest) member of the public, it's the irresponsible moron of a police officer who has become so blase that they misplaced a bag of firearms.

[ATG]

From what I heard on the radio, apparently the bag was investigated by a pregnant woman giving it a kick. Had she thought there was a serious risk, I imagine she would also have applied a safety squint to her face before delivering the kick.

This pragmatic approach to risk management will rescue us from clipboards.

[poo at Paul's]

I’m sure ‘lessons will be learned’ but they’ll all keep their pensions.

[Bigends]

Richard-D said:

Most people seeing a bag left sat somewhere don't think 'IED' they think 'oh, someone's forgot their bag'. The fact that they immediately reported it to the police leads me to believe they're not the problem here even if they did look in a bag outside the home of a prime target. The problem here isn't the naive (but honest) member of the public, it's the irresponsible moron of a police officer who has become so blase that they misplaced a bag of firearms.

If theyd rung it in - what do you think the all handler would have told them to do? Maybe take a look inside - if non valuable or hazardous then report it online

Edited by Bigends on Saturday 4th April 11:53

[Greendubber]

Bigends said:

Richard-D said:

Most people seeing a bag left sat somewhere don't think 'IED' they think 'oh, someone's forgot their bag'. The fact that they immediately reported it to the police leads me to believe they're not the problem here even if they did look in a bag outside the home of a prime target. The problem here isn't the naive (but honest) member of the public, it's the irresponsible moron of a police officer who has become so blase that they misplaced a bag of firearms.

If theyd rung it in - what do you think the all handler would have told them to do?

PoLSA here - not very abandoned bag is treated as a potential IED. It's entirely reasonable for some to open a bag they've found or even be told to open it. Circumstances around the location etc matter. I bet they weren't expecting that lot to be inside though, yikes.

As for the cops that left that behind, holy fk. Good bye armed policing, hello relentless career lasting piss taking, possible reduction in rank and welcome to a new role within policing you've never ever wanted.

I'm speechless TBH, but then again it was The Met.

[Terzo123]

HOT protocol can be used for bags and packages.

Those cops are in for a world of piss taking at the very least. It will be the end of their armed policing career.

[Silverage]

How long was it before they were found? I would have expected that when the police returned to their station all their firearms would have to be checked in and then there would have been an “oh st!” moment before roaring back to the mayor’s house.

[sixor8]

21:40 the police were called, so quite some time it seems. I can't believe that there isn't a procedure to check out weapons, and back in again. There were live rounds too, you have to declare you have none when you even leave a range, or used to.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjd8y33ze08o

[Simpo Two]

Silverage said:

How long was it before they were found? I would have expected that when the police returned to their station all their firearms would have to be checked in and then there would have been an oh st! moment before roaring back to the mayor s house.

'Where are the guns?'
'I thought you had them...'

Ironically those august gentlemen are now the LEAST likely ever to leave guns behind again!

[_Rodders_]

poo at Paul's said:

I m sure lessons will be learned but they ll all keep their pensions.

You'd take someone's pension away and ruin their life and possibly their families because they forgot a bag, albeit a rather important one.

[Greendubber]

Terzo123 said:

HOT protocol can be used for bags and packages.

Those cops are in for a world of piss taking at the very least. It will be the end of their armed policing career.

Indeed!

[tumble dryer]

_Rodders_ said:

poo at Paul's said:

I m sure lessons will be learned but they ll all keep their pensions.

You'd take someone's pension away and ruin their life and possibly their families because they forgot a bag, albeit a rather important one.

If it had been you, or I, who had left them there, never mind pensions, we'd be contemplating losing our freedom.

[Greendubber]

tumble dryer said:

_Rodders_ said:

poo at Paul's said:

I m sure lessons will be learned but they ll all keep their pensions.

You'd take someone's pension away and ruin their life and possibly their families because they forgot a bag, albeit a rather important one.

If it had been you, or I, who had left them there, never mind pensions, we'd be contemplating losing our freedom.

Presumably you aren't someone who can lawfully possess/carry a Glock 17, HK MP5, suitable ammunition and a Taser?

[Jamescrs]

poo at Paul's said:

I m sure lessons will be learned but they ll all keep their pensions.

I know in passing of a cop a few years ago who left his sidearm in a staff toilet inside a Police station so in a far safer place than the current story discussed here and he has been sat working in the dispatch centre ever since, not allowed on the streets in any capacity currently.

I imagine the fall out from this will be equally as severe at least.

[tumble dryer]

Greendubber said:

tumble dryer said:

_Rodders_ said:

poo at Paul's said:

I m sure lessons will be learned but they ll all keep their pensions.

You'd take someone's pension away and ruin their life and possibly their families because they forgot a bag, albeit a rather important one.

If it had been you, or I, who had left them there, never mind pensions, we'd be contemplating losing our freedom.

Presumably you aren't someone who can lawfully possess/carry a Glock 17, HK MP5, suitable ammunition and a Taser?

Not currently, though there was a time... (not the Taser)

[Doesitdrive]

Richard-D said:

sagarich said:

GasEngineer said:

Makes you wonder why the passer by was rootling about in a suspicious package as well as taking photos of it

Last thing I would do if I thought a bag looks suspicious would be to open it FFS!

Most people seeing a bag left sat somewhere don't think 'IED' they think 'oh, someone's forgot their bag'. The fact that they immediately reported it to the police leads me to believe they're not the problem here even if they did look in a bag outside the home of a prime target. The problem here isn't the naive (but honest) member of the public, it's the irresponsible moron of a police officer who has become so blase that they misplaced a bag of firearms.

You say honest , I bet if it was something useful or valuable the outcome may have been different lol.

The sons father in law was a London gun cop, this really doesn't surprise. I wouldn't have said he was professional.