60 mph too fast...

[gazza5]

Interestingly thanks to Oxford mail to bringing this to my attention, I just simply do not know what to say..........

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/national/uk-toda...

I mean, tbh it's probably hard to get up to 60mph on most roads in the south due to potholes, too much traffic etc.

And they wonder why there are so many zombies driving cars staring at Speedos etc

[alscar]

I wonder how many of those 4000 that have apparently signed the petition are actually drivers though.

[Kawasicki]

Just leave earlier, ffs. FFS.

Edited by Kawasicki on Thursday 23 April 16:09

[John D.]

Spotted this BS today as well.

[R5 KDT]

Perhaps someone should do an alternative petition for raising the speed limit and see if it garners more than 4k votes

[Sporky]

There are certainly NSL roads near me that shouldn't be (single track with passing places), but I don't agree with the broad brush approach.

[timberman]

Kawasicki said:

Just leave earlier, ffs. FFS.

Edited by Kawasicki on Thursday 23 April 16:09

Does that make driving at 30 mph on a wide open and empty country road with good visibility seem less unnecessary.

[5lab]

I suspect they intended the petition to be about roads that are a single lane wide. I'd have no problem with them being 30 - its rare you can get much above that anyway. Single carriageways on the other hand are fine at 60

[otolith]

The roads where 60 is plainly silly are, in any case, self-limiting.

[768]

20 days late.

[Dog Biscuit]

It won't happen.

[grumbledoak]

Sporky said:

There are certainly NSL roads near me that shouldn't be (single track with passing places), but I don't agree with the broad brush approach.

If everyone is slowing down appropriately for the narrow road, why do we need a sign at all?

[Sporky]

grumbledoak said:

If everyone is slowing down appropriately for the narrow road, why do we need a sign at all?

Not everyone is. Every so often someone ends up coming round a corner too fast and ending up in a hedge to avoid a tractor or horsebox coming the other way.

Most people are OK at it. But not all.

[Milkyway]

60mph: Sounds like my late Dad... but throw in a 3000rpm limit as well)

We would just leave earlier... Don't forget to factor in a any breaks.

Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 23 April 17:44

[brillomaster]

At first I thought it had no chance, but actually, if the petition is referring to genuine single lane roads, then they might be on to something.

I can think of a few rural single lane rounds where you have to crawl round corners at walking speed as they have zero visibility. At least, you do if you drive sensibly.

Problem is, people who dont drive sensibly ignore speed limits anyway, so making single lane roads 30mph won't achieve much, I fear.

[samoht]

There are two basic mindsets when it comes to driving:

1) The government will tell me what speed is safe to drive at. I don't need to try and exercise my own fallible judgment, just read the number on the signs and follow that, and I'll be fine.

2) The speed which is safe depends upon the road, the vehicle I'm driving, the weather conditions and the other road users present. Therefore the only person who can possibly judge a safe speed is the driver. I will continuously observe, evaluate, and judge what speed I can safely drive at - which I expect may vary metre by metre as I progress along the road.


For those who follow mindset #1, it's understandable that being presented with a 60mph speed rule on a road full of blind bends which isn't consistently wide enough for two vehicles to pass is discombobulating, and they would sign the petition.


Unfortunately the ongoing process of "improving road safety" inadvertently promotes mindset #1, leading to the sort of nonsense reported here (albeit involving only a few fools out of millions of drivers in the country).

[Terminator X]

Lol they can just drive at 30 can't they, no law against it.

That wouldn't do though, need to drag the entire country down.

TX.

[kambites]

brillomaster said:

At first I thought it had no chance, but actually, if the petition is referring to genuine single lane roads, then they might be on to something.

The article says single carriageway, not single lane. Ie it would apply to everything which is currently a 60 limit under the NSL.

Fortunately, it's such a stupid idea it'll never happen. If they'd set their sights on a 50 limit instead I'd be more worried!

[brillomaster]

Oh yeah thats plain BS. Who honestly thinks the speed limit on all rural roads should be 30mph?

Unfortunately Warwickshire has already decided the NSL should be 50 everywhere, not 60. But 30 is ludicrous.

[Milkyway]

Who said it was a limit...not a target.