What does this sign mean?

[speedking31]

Police notice
Drivers of vehicles parked on this road may be prosecuted for obstruction.

Located here:

A49 layby

Does it mean you can't park in the layby, in which case why not say so? Or does it mean you can't park on the road but the layby is OK, in which case why not double yellows or a Clearway? Or does it mean no parking on the road or in the layby. Why is "No Parking" not a sufficient instruction

[Opapayer]

I’m definitely Rain Man as I knew where that was as soon as I saw the lay-by. I’m guessing it’s a warning to lorries not to park there for extended periods, as there’s some services across the road where they probably have to pay for an overnighter, or is often full.

[loskie]

Is it a lay by or a road widening to allow lorries to turn into the yard opposite?

There seems to be no road markings to separate it from the road.

Does a camera van park there?

[CraigyMc]

speedking31 said:

Police notice
Drivers of vehicles parked on this road may be prosecuted for obstruction.

Located here:

A49 layby

Does it mean you can't park in the layby, in which case why not say so? Or does it mean you can't park on the road but the layby is OK, in which case why not double yellows or a Clearway? Or does it mean no parking on the road or in the layby. Why is "No Parking" not a sufficient instruction

Adding actual photo because why make everyone's life harder?

[No ideas for a name]

speedking31 said:

Police notice
Drivers of vehicles parked on this road may be prosecuted for obstruction.
...

Does it mean you can't park in the layby, in which case why not say so? Or does it mean you can't park on the road but the layby is OK, in which case why not double yellows or a Clearway? Or does it mean no parking on the road or in the layby. Why is "No Parking" not a sufficient instruction

I can't see that this would in anyway be enforceable... it is surely nonsense.



You can't have an area marked for parking, then not allow parking.

ETA: Or is it that maybe lorries park with the back end of the trailer sticking out... which would possibly be obstruction. It is just a clumsy and unnecessary sign.

Edited by No ideas for a name on Tuesday 5th May 07:07

[dundarach]

Well, breaking it down, I'm going for:

1. It's fake and installed by that house on tuvver side

Or

2. If it's not, it says 'may' for an 'obstruction' which is the case on ANY road isn't it....?

Does this sign simply say "Do whatever you want here, anything in the world, which if it's against any laws in England, you might be prosecuted, if you're caught doing it and there enough evidence, think of this layby as ANY other road or space anywhere else."

[Sheepshanks]

Opapayer said:

I m definitely Rain Man as I knew where that was as soon as I saw the lay-by. I m guessing it s a warning to lorries not to park there for extended periods, as there s some services across the road where they probably have to pay for an overnighter, or is often full.

I would guess it's that. Lay-bys purpose is for brief stops and mis-use could be regarded as obstructing that intended purpose.

Has that garage changed a lot? I use that road fairly regularly and didn't immediately recognise the location.

[trickywoo]

It a strange one as there are plenty of legal parking places where you obstruct passing traffic if they need to giveaway to traffic coming the other way.

I can’t see how you could block the entire road parking there.

I can’t see the amenity of it for a couple of cars to park so if hgvs are a big enough issue to put that sign up they should remove it.

Probably cost too much to do the correct thing so they just put a sign up.

[Sheepshanks]

trickywoo said:

It a strange one as there are plenty of legal parking places where you obstruct passing traffic if they need to giveaway to traffic coming the other way.

I can t see how you could block the entire road parking there.

You don't have to literally block the road for it to be obstruction - anything that interrupts the flow is enough.

[trickywoo]

Sheepshanks said:

trickywoo said:

It a strange one as there are plenty of legal parking places where you obstruct passing traffic if they need to giveaway to traffic coming the other way.

I can t see how you could block the entire road parking there.

You don't have to literally block the road for it to be obstruction - anything that interrupts the flow is enough.

Yes but my point is most parking obstructs the road. I can’t go 10m out of my house without the possibility of having to giveaway behind a parked car. That’s no going to lead to police action.

[Sheepshanks]

trickywoo said:

Yes but my point is most parking obstructs the road. I can t go 10m out of my house without the possibility of having to giveaway behind a parked car. That s no going to lead to police action.

It may well lead to action if you lived on a derestricted A road, as is the case here.

[snuffy]

If you go back a fre years using Street View, there's also another sigh about refrigerated vehicles not parking between certain hours.

Does it not mean parking on the road, as opposed to in the lay-by?

Or maybe there was an issue with very large lorries (refrigerated vehicles maybe) parking on the lay-by and causing an obstruction?

And so, its a lay-by, so you can park your car, but dont park your whopping lorry here ?

[trickywoo]

Sheepshanks said:

It may well lead to action if you lived on a derestricted A road, as is the case here.

I think my point about the lay-by being removed rather than that sign put up stands. Doesn t seem a good idea on a 60 road with a lot going on with entrances to businesses, traffic lights etc.

Edited by trickywoo on Tuesday 5th May 08:22

Edited by trickywoo on Tuesday 5th May 08:22

[whimsical ninja]

Rather odd to be sure. I read it was "don't park on this road other than in this layby" - the big "P" at the entrance to the layby seems pretty clear that it's OK. Definitely a bit bizarre

[Yellow Lizud]

The bean counters at the local council realised they hadn't emptied the "unnecessary road signs" pot. They then went to the local primary school where they organised a prize for the kid that could come up with the most pointless and meaningless sign. Once designed they went to the sign making company that paid the best backhander. They then went on to employ the contractor that could keep the road closed for the greatest length of time while they had numerous tea breaks installed the signs.

And here you have the prize winning result - the winning kids parents are so proud every time they drive past them.

[Simpo Two]

Yellow Lizud said:

They then went on to employ the contractor that could keep the road closed for the greatest length of time while they had numerous tea breaks installed the signs.

I'll just park this here: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1635160137899310

Sorry but you'll need FB to watch it.

[V8 Bob]

The sign refers too people parking on the verges and causing issues with emergency vehicles etc. in the Lake District and other tourist places you get numerous cars abandoned while there owners and passengers go for walks causing access issues to local traffic ie buses, wagons and emergency vehicles.
The latest in Cumbria is they are bringing in time limits in some lay-bys which are predominately used by people car sharing and leaving several cars there all day.

[loskie]

trickywoo said:

Sheepshanks said:

It may well lead to action if you lived on a derestricted A road, as is the case here.

I think my point about the lay-by being removed rather than that sign put up stands. Doesn t seem a good idea on a 60 road with a lot going on with entrances to businesses, traffic lights etc.

Edited by trickywoo on Tuesday 5th May 08:22

Edited by trickywoo on Tuesday 5th May 08:22

I wondered if it's not a lay by but there's a bin in the picture

[trickywoo]

loskie said:

I wondered if it's not a lay by but there's a bin in the picture

And a big P sign on the entry to it.

[speedking31]

Sheepshanks said:

Lay-bys purpose is for brief stops and mis-use could be regarded as obstructing that intended purpose.

So why not use the same as typically seen in towns, "waiting limited to 1 hour", or similar. If the sign doesn't apply to the layby then move them to the kerb, before and after the layby. Yes, there are two signs.