Using a quad on the road
Discussion
Good afternoon all,
I have a previously road registered farm quad that I could do with using on the road occasionally.
It has, once, had an MOT and I would not mind putting it through one again if that is the best course of action.
I am not a farmer, although I do have a decent amount of land and being able to use this on the road would be beneficial.
It has a speedo, horn, headlights and a number plate.
I am unsure as to whether I should try and road register it as an agri vehicle or as a standard road vehicle.
Any thoughts from any of you that have done this before?
Thank you
I have a previously road registered farm quad that I could do with using on the road occasionally.
It has, once, had an MOT and I would not mind putting it through one again if that is the best course of action.
I am not a farmer, although I do have a decent amount of land and being able to use this on the road would be beneficial.
It has a speedo, horn, headlights and a number plate.
I am unsure as to whether I should try and road register it as an agri vehicle or as a standard road vehicle.
Any thoughts from any of you that have done this before?
Thank you
OutInTheShed said:
Have you had an insurance quote for road use?
I've heard it can be fierce, if you don't have a business use for quads.
Have had a couple of quotes, one was silly. The other was £300 which seems fine. Also covers any user which is good as I usually have someone working with me. I've heard it can be fierce, if you don't have a business use for quads.
MrMoonyMan said:
Yep, got the V5 for it.
It is currently on as Agric machine - limited use.
I think it was only changed to that two years ago.
The "agricultural vehicle - limited use" exemption has some conditions: you can only travel a maximum of 1.5km between parcels of land and it MUST be used as a working vehicle for agriculture, horticulture or forestry. For this, the tax is free and you could use it on red diesel (obviously, if it were a diesel - some quads are but not yours). Also it technically doesn't even need an MoT. It is currently on as Agric machine - limited use.
I think it was only changed to that two years ago.
Since you've said you're not a farmer, can you change some of the use of your land to include AHF and enjoy the exemption?
If not, then you'll need to re-register it as a road-going quad, obtain an MoT, then tax it.
In all cases, on-road use needs to be insured.
Thank you for that Paul.
Although I’d not want to go far on it the 1.5 km bit along with the need to change land use etc would probably prohibit me from using it on its current Agri status.
The next question would be what sort of MOT I’d need to arrange for it. It’s never had a road kit (indicators/brake light) etc and yet has had an MOT previously.
I would not mind MOt’ing and taxing it but do not want to get extra lights etc for it. Is there some sort of a basic MOT for these things?
Although I’d not want to go far on it the 1.5 km bit along with the need to change land use etc would probably prohibit me from using it on its current Agri status.
The next question would be what sort of MOT I’d need to arrange for it. It’s never had a road kit (indicators/brake light) etc and yet has had an MOT previously.
I would not mind MOt’ing and taxing it but do not want to get extra lights etc for it. Is there some sort of a basic MOT for these things?
I'm assuming since its already at some point been registered, its recorded on the V5 as type approval class L7e (heavy quad). It won't/can't be L6 (light quad) because these are restricted to under 50cc engines, amongst other things. If its a heavy quad, then it would need a Class 4 MoT (same as a car) but because its a quad, there are a huge number of variations and exemptions within the rules. It may be that a "car" garage cannot test it, and a motorcycle MoT place is more appropriate.
OutInTheShed said:
I have a vague idea it's like a trials bike, a single seat one can have an MOT with just a brake light?
Personally I would ask a bike MOT place.
But the MOT test manuals are online somewhere.
The “daytime MOT” rules are quite clear, if a little perplexing. Personally I would ask a bike MOT place.
But the MOT test manuals are online somewhere.
You can tape over, or remove, your lights and you’ll get an advisory that they’re not fitted at the time of testing.
However, that means that you have NO lights at the time of testing. Including brake light!
There is absolutely nothing stopping you taking the tape off afterwards…
paul_c123 said:
I'm assuming since its already at some point been registered, its recorded on the V5 as type approval class L7e (heavy quad). It won't/can't be L6 (light quad) because these are restricted to under 50cc engines, amongst other things. If its a heavy quad, then it would need a Class 4 MoT (same as a car) but because its a quad, there are a huge number of variations and exemptions within the rules. It may be that a "car" garage cannot test it, and a motorcycle MoT place is more appropriate.
I think I will try an MOT at a local bike MOT place following your post. It is 300cc although I had not thought of it as being heavy having managed to get it in and out of a van by myself!
Nothing on its MOT history mentions the daytime rule so maybe it was just how the tester noted it down on that day.
OutInTheShed said:
I have a vague idea it's like a trials bike, a single seat one can have an MOT with just a brake light?
Personally I would ask a bike MOT place.
But the MOT test manuals are online somewhere.
Trials bikes don't need a brake light, but they do need a horn, a speedo you can see, and be road registered. That's about it.Personally I would ask a bike MOT place.
But the MOT test manuals are online somewhere.
Oceanrower said:
gazza285 said:
Trials bikes don't need a brake light, but they do need a horn, a speedo you can see, and be road registered. That's about it.
Want to bet about the speedo?Trials bikes used to need a brakelight, horn and speedo.
Rubber bulb horns, a speedo on the fork leg and a battery brake light used to be common.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-...
I'm still not clear whether a quad under 200cc but with wheels a decent distance apart might be a 'motorcycle', but not a bicycle.
I think the killer might be, a bike-only class 1/2 test centre might not be able to brake test a quad?
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