Using AI to fabricate evidence
Using AI to fabricate evidence
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CoolHands

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22,782 posts

221 months

Yesterday (18:33)
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A police officer, that is nono I’m trying to work out how could AI be used for that ie what could it have been used to do?

https://news.sky.com/story/derbyshire-police-offic...

SteveScooby

835 posts

203 months

Yesterday (18:56)
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My guess is putting some basic details in to Co-pilot (or similar) and telling it to turn it in to a full statement.

CoolHands

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22,782 posts

221 months

Yesterday (20:31)
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Yes could be.. Perhaps he should get a commendation for innovative use of technology, speeding up the paperwork burden. Input words: burglary, suspect, ran, alley, fell, arrest

And it turns it into a nice statement

I was diligently patrolling the local estate as per the Chiefs instructions, whereupon a came across a wanted burglary suspect whom I recognised from the Chiefs excellent and informative early morning briefings. I gave chase after the suspect ducked down an alleyway and ran away. I caught up to him due to the fact he had fallen over, but was unharmed. I duly arrested him and read him his rights.

Could process more scrotes in a day!

skyebear

1,162 posts

32 months

Yesterday (22:36)
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CoolHands said:
Yes could be.. Perhaps he should get a commendation for innovative use of technology, speeding up the paperwork burden. Input words: burglary, suspect, ran, alley, fell, arrest

And it turns it into a nice statement

I was diligently patrolling the local estate as per the Chiefs instructions, whereupon a came across a wanted burglary suspect whom I recognised from the Chiefs excellent and informative early morning briefings. I gave chase after the suspect ducked down an alleyway and ran away. I caught up to him due to the fact he had fallen over, but was unharmed. I duly arrested him and read him his rights.

Could process more scrotes in a day!
They were caught after someone noticed the spelling and grammar were suspiciously good for a police officer.

drmike37

605 posts

82 months

I can’t see that the problem is using AI to write statements. I’ve written statements for the coroner with AI and it’s fine. It’s quite good at turning a stream of consciousness into a coherent report in the right style.
The trick is to check what it’s written very carefully to make sure it is factually correct and you’d be happy reading it under oath.

CoolHands

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22,782 posts

221 months

I remember this was the best statement ever, after the CPS demanded a statement from “PC Peach”!


vaud

58,537 posts

181 months

I don’t think there is an issue with using AI per se (at least for me)

But too many blindly trust the output

It’s good when used as an assistant, but even that needs some training and the user to understand what they are doing.

Simbu

1,888 posts

200 months

AI could be getting used to generate statements from bodycam and dash cam footage and other known data such as GPS and timestamps. That would take a lot of the boilerplate effort out of the admin of producing statements. Then it can be verified by the officer and added to with whatever is pertinent but missing.

The completeness of statements would improve, and the opportunity for mistakes would reduce (allowing for AI hallucinations!).

Referencing about what in a statement is AI generated, and what the source was, would support transparency.

Craigyp79

628 posts

209 months

Simbu said:
AI could be getting used to generate statements from bodycam and dash cam footage and other known data such as GPS and timestamps. That would take a lot of the boilerplate effort out of the admin of producing statements. Then it can be verified by the officer and added to with whatever is pertinent but missing.

The completeness of statements would improve, and the opportunity for mistakes would reduce (allowing for AI hallucinations!).

Referencing about what in a statement is AI generated, and what the source was, would support transparency.
Agree, statements should come from what is written in the officer's notebook and using AI for that would be an improvement IMO. I don't write statements very often, but I do have to review official documents regularly, using AI for these is currently forbidden, but if there is a good enough assurance process in place, I don't see why it's an issue.