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turbobloke

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117,256 posts

290 months

Tuesday 15th November 2005
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You may have noticed some recent PH threads where law-abiding drivers are facing prosecution from improperly introduced or signed speed limits or potentially inaccurate speed measuring devices. Some motorists have successfully defended their innocence, but other 'innocent' drivers have lost their cases and been convicted. The Association of British Drivers has supported some of the high profile cases which you may have read about, but has backed others too.

We don't support every claimed instance of rough justice, but we DO want to support drivers where specialist advice suggests that there is a problem unresolved, or a clarification of the legal position is needed. Doing so successfully depends on the state of our Fighting Fund. Last year we gave just over £6,000 to help drivers defend unreasonable charges or lodge appeals against unsound convictions.

Next year there are some important cases coming to Court, and £4,000 has already been committed. Your contribution to the ABD Fighting Fund is vital if we are to continue defending wrongfully prosecuted drivers. Your donations will be much appreciated and wisely spent - not on the ABD, but in support of drivers who can’t afford the cost of justice.

In addition to this appeal on PH, which has Ted's prior approval, we are also appealing to our members in 'On The Road', the ABD’s journal. You can make a donation at any time to the Fighting Fund on-line and you can join securely on-line as well. Thank you.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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iirc some of these anti car/speed/'safety' pressure groups are funded by public transport companies and quasi-government partnerships. i dont understand why the likes of aa/rac/halfords/porsche uk/maranello/bmw/merc etc etc dont fund some pro car/driver groups. they will be the biggest losers financially as the lentalists take over. just a thought...

james_j

3,996 posts

285 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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francisb said:
iirc some of these anti car/speed/'safety' pressure groups are funded by public transport companies and quasi-government partnerships. i dont understand why the likes of aa/rac/halfords/porsche uk/maranello/bmw/merc etc etc dont fund some pro car/driver groups. they will be the biggest losers financially as the lentalists take over. just a thought...


Good point. Come on you lot in the motor and related industries. You're not afraid of appearing "politically incorrect" are you?

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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james_j said:
francisb said:
iirc some of these anti car/speed/'safety' pressure groups are funded by public transport companies and quasi-government partnerships. i dont understand why the likes of aa/rac/halfords/porsche uk/maranello/bmw/merc etc etc dont fund some pro car/driver groups. they will be the biggest losers financially as the lentalists take over. just a thought...


Good point. Come on you lot in the motor and related industries. You're not afraid of appearing "politically incorrect" are you?


Indeed its high time the manufacturers came off the fence. After all its not as if the green filth can take sanctions against them anymore all cars are manufactured abroad. I stopped an NWRDA project funding Brake by insisting an identical ammount went to the ABD. It must be possible to lobby the quangos as they are terrified of bad publicity and complaints from MPs. Are there any anti lentilist MPs out there?

turbobloke

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117,256 posts

290 months

Wednesday 16th November 2005
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You'd be amazed- but then perhaps not - how many of the very car-centric outfits you'd expect to fight the motorist's corner see it as a public relations problem rather than an opportunity. Which is sad, and wrong. Trouble is, on issues from road safety to the eco stuff, lentilists have (sadly) been very effective with their propaganda and it's this that holds sway with general public opinion. We're trying to counter that with objective evidence, but emotive propaganda is powerful.

turbobloke

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117,256 posts

290 months

Friday 18th November 2005
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Bumpety bump

turbobloke

Original Poster:

117,256 posts

290 months

Friday 18th November 2005
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Genuine call today

caller said:
Can you help? [An elderly person] has had his car impounded because he had no insurance.


The man actually does have insurance but the details didn't show on the police database.

Maybe PH's BiB can help us to help him.

Tafia

2,658 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2005
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turbobloke said:
Genuine call today

caller said:
Can you help? [An elderly person] has had his car impounded because he had no insurance.


The man actually does have insurance but the details didn't show on the police database.

Maybe PH's BiB can help us to help him.


This was reported in the Daily Post yesterday if it is the same case. Guy forgot the name of his insurance company ( easily done, as he had just changed insurers via the Post Office brokerage).

Allegedly the Post Office or the new insurers had not informed DVLA and he had not got his new insurance cert with him so car was impounded.

Have we not always been told never to keep insurance, MOT or driving licence in the car in case it is stolen. What now? Carry them always?