Monitron destroyed by fire.

[deltafox]

The first Monitron speed camera to be attacked has been destroyed by a fire. It has also had the post forced open.
Pictures etc:

www.speedcam.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index2.htm

[purpleheadedcerb]

If that's to do people who jump red-lights then to be honest, I'm a bit gutted. The red-light cameras are about the onle one's I agree with. I've got no time for people who are caught by these.

[nonegreen]

most traffic lights only serve to cause congestion. If the government put this camera there then its fair game.

[puggit]

Drove to Nottingham yesterday for the 1st time in quite a few years, had the trusty TomTom working.

I couldn't believe the amount of cameras appearing on the TomTom screen as we drove past jc25 on the M1 - it was truly something from a nightmare.

Came off at jc26 and drove in to town along Specs alley. I doubt the accident rate along that road has much do to with speeding, and more to do with the accident inducing road layout!

[james_j]

puggit said:

Came off at jc26 and drove in to town along Specs alley. I doubt the accident rate along that road has much do to with speeding, and more to do with the accident inducing road layout!

Road design is increasingly accident and congestion-creating.

Incidentally, research in the US has shown traffic light cameras to increase the number of accidents. I guess people are more worried by being flashed to concentrate properly on driving.

[CommanderJameson]

james_j said:

puggit said: Came off at jc26 and drove in to town along Specs alley. I doubt the accident rate along that road has much do to with speeding, and more to do with the accident inducing road layout! Road design is increasingly accident and congestion-creating. Incidentally, research in the US has shown traffic light cameras to increase the number of accidents. I guess people are more worried by being flashed to concentrate properly on driving.

I would be wary of using US research in a discussion about UK drivers. US drivers are less well-trained (the driving test in most, if not all, US states is much less rigorous than the UK test) and on the whole more crash-prone to start with.

(Spoddy number-talk follows)

From here:
www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/2005/html/table_02_01.html
we can see that in 2003 there were 42,643 fatalities on US roads, for 0.000138 deaths per capita.

From here:
www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_transstats/documents/page/dft_transstats_040983.xls
In the same year, there were 3,247 fatalities on UK roads, for 0.000054 deaths per capita.

In 2003, the US fatality rate, per capita, was 2.5 times that of the UK. It's worse if you factor in casualties; the US has 10 times the number of road casualties per capita that the UK does. I'll do the numbers at lunchtime.

[deva link]

CommanderJameson said:

(Spoddy number-talk follows) From here: www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/2005/html/table_02_01.html we can see that in 2003 there were 42,643 fatalities on US roads, for 0.000138 deaths per capita. From here: www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_transstats/documents/page/dft_transstats_040983.xls In the same year, there were 3,247 fatalities on UK roads, for 0.000054 deaths per capita. In 2003, the US fatality rate, per capita, was 2.5 times that of the UK. It's worse if you factor in casualties; the US has 10 times the number of road casualties per capita that the UK does. I'll do the numbers at lunchtime.

Seat belt use is much less prolific in the US which must have a dramatic impact on the number of KSI's.

>> Edited by deva link on Friday 25th November 15:51