Plates that cameras can't read.
Plates that cameras can't read.
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ultimasimon

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9,646 posts

277 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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Reading through the thread on tagged number plates I found this link

www.homeoffice.gov.uk/vcb/vcb4.htm

In para 5, the following is mentioned.

" In addition, the practice of altering the spacing and fonts on number plates can make it difficult or impossible for Automated Number Plate Reader (ANPR) cameras to read plates. The police have invested heavily in ANPR equipment."

Excellent news, thanks for that then, I will just find a Max Power plate supplier safe in the knowledge that the scameras can't read it.

zumbruk

7,848 posts

279 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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Don't bother. If a machine can't read it, the picture is simply handed to a human being who can. And then you get done for illegal plates as well as speeding or whatever. Much better to have a set of fake plates using legal lettering. Not that I would suggest you do such a thing of course.

>> Edited by zumbruk on Monday 9th December 14:57

Podie

46,646 posts

294 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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zumbruk said: Don't bother. If a machine can't read it, the picture is simply handed to a human being who can.


... who'll then give you a £30 fine for having illegal spacing (or font) on your number plate...

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

290 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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Errr, and just HOW many plates are going to be handed to a human? tee hee. Obviously you haven't been to any bike meets recently.

And isn't it supposed to be wrong to be done for 2 offenses at the same time? either you get a VDRN, OR you get a speeding ticket. Not both..?

C

deltaf

1,384 posts

276 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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Try the Priva-Plate.
It clips over your existing number plates and with the flick of a switch, it goes from visible to ...er..invisible.
It works by using a special (correct me if wrong) monochromatic film, that reacts to electric current passed thru it.
Apparently its clear when powered, and opaque when un powered, but the current drain is so small that it can be left connected indefinetly.
Priva-Plate.com is the web address i think.

joust

14,622 posts

278 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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zumbruk said: Don't bother. If a machine can't read it, the picture is simply handed to a human being who can
Surely they can't do this for SPECs though - as they have no (easy) way of working out if you have been speeding if both ends can't read it - and given the accuracy rates on ANPR it would take them squillions of years to check all the "non-reads" by hand to see if two matched.

So - get a "legal" one for the back, and a squiffy one for the front

J

Agent006

12,058 posts

283 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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or if you're really being techy about it, how about some sort of system (lcd screen? or flipper jobby) that changes one number, to the reg of a similar type of car. Through the first camera as car 1, through the second camera as car 2.

dazren

22,612 posts

280 months

Monday 9th December 2002
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Agent006 said: or if you're really being techy about it, how about some sort of system (lcd screen? or flipper jobby) that changes one number, to the reg of a similar type of car. Through the first camera as car 1, through the second camera as car 2.


I think someone at your company's already got that option fitted to a silver Aston if my memory serves me correctly.

DAZ

markla

23 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th December 2002
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Or the Ontrack 'Protector' ((www.tyrekickers.com/Market.html))

See through from normal angles - anything above about 10 feet they become opaque. You don't have to worry about flipping a switch and it doesn't matter who they give the photo too - they ain't gonna read it!!!

CraigAlsop

1,991 posts

287 months

Tuesday 10th December 2002
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dazren said:
I think someone at your company's already got that option fitted to a silver Aston if my memory serves me correctly.

DAZ


deltaf

1,384 posts

276 months

Tuesday 10th December 2002
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Ontrack protector is a waste of money.
The effect is so obvious to a following plod that theyll pull you for it, and do you for obstruction.
Besides the fact that it dont stop gatsos from taking you photo either. Why? The gatso takes its photo from a 15 degree angle, your plate can be seen from 25, physics, pure and simple.

woof

8,456 posts

296 months

Tuesday 10th December 2002
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the easiest way is to find a way to register your car abroad - or like my bike which isn't registered at all.

markla

23 posts

279 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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deltaf said: Ontrack protector is a waste of money.
The effect is so obvious to a following plod that theyll pull you for it, and do you for obstruction.
Besides the fact that it dont stop gatsos from taking you photo either. Why? The gatso takes its photo from a 15 degree angle, your plate can be seen from 25, physics, pure and simple.


Well i've been using one for about 8 months with no problems, they really don't show unless you are VERY close. Understand what your saying about Gatso's, though like I said, not had any problems!!! (touching wood!)

Aren't SPECS cameras much higher, though? Like streetlamp height?

deltaf

1,384 posts

276 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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Specs are indeed very much higher, but also measure youre speed in a slightly different manner.
Still a distance over time measurement, but the distance is larger and its your front plate they go for.
Your protector could offer protection on the front, i think.
Give it a whirl.

moleamol

15,887 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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I think the 'protector' has had a little dose of photoshop

deltaf

1,384 posts

276 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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I concur with your analysis.

markla

23 posts

279 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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Ha! Ha! Cynics!!

Believe it or not, thats actually what they look like!
Its like a cashpoint screen, some kind of prism effect methinks.

Will try to post a pic of mine on my Corrado if I can work out the pic posting stuff.

Fourwheeldrift

91,419 posts

303 months

Wednesday 11th December 2002
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deltaf said: Try the Priva-Plate.
It clips over your existing number plates and with the flick of a switch, it goes from visible to ...er..invisible.
It works by using a special (correct me if wrong) monochromatic film, that reacts to electric current passed thru it.
Apparently its clear when powered, and opaque when un powered, but the current drain is so small that it can be left connected indefinetly.
Priva-Plate.com is the web address i think.


Looks like rear only though, how about cameras that take pics of the front of your car, you know the ones that never catch bikers!!!!

Buying two might be as expensive as um ooooooh lets see, um, a speeding ticket?

outlaw

1,893 posts

285 months

Thursday 12th December 2002
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just crack the frount plate up a bit
and keep upside down on the dash

if you see a cop turn it ove if you get pulled tell
when you come back to the car it was lyieing on the floor some one must have hit it and im on me way to halfords to get another one.


works ever time

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

280 months

Thursday 12th December 2002
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do you actually have to have a plate on the front??
I've seen loads that don't..
kitcars, sevens, mx5's etc etc...
what's the law here?
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