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393 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th August 2001
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Desperate attempts to justify zero tolerance if you ask me. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1489000/1489176.stm

Marv

158 posts

274 months

Tuesday 14th August 2001
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Id say that artical does have a bit of common sense in it... After all would you want your child hit at 35mph! what it doesnt cover is the fact that a lot of the cameras are hidden behind trees on the dual carridgeways and other fast roads where pedestrians dont go! I travel all over the country on a variety of roads and the amount of motorway bridges ive seen graced by a laser gun is just silly. But i hardly ever see them on the 30mph roads where there are people about... does the word revenue come to mind?

smeagol

1,947 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th August 2001
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I agree Marv, I have never seen a speed camera outside a school, Has anyone else?

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th August 2001
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Interesting article, but it's really an elongated sound bite, with little substance, and lots of hype. No mention of the fact that drivers speed on ALL roads not just urban routes. No mention that some people enjoy speeding, and are just a likely to be well educated, responsible A1's, as Max Power types. The suggestion that speeding can be linked to other forms of anti-social behaviour, that speeders are effectively little better than sociopaths, is laughable, and typical psycho-babble from a Prof. of Psychology. Just the hidden "speed kills" message, authenticated by ooerr, a PROFESSOR - must be true then....

nubbin

6,809 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th August 2001
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I have never seen a speed camera outside a school, Has anyone else?
No, but plenty of speed dealers!!

nmilton

449 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th August 2001
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There's a clear belief on the part of the "we want more cameras" brigade that anyone who opposes cameras is in favour of no speed limits anywhere and having the right to speed whenever and wherever we want and that we care nothing about human life. As we all know, that couldn't be further from the truth. Sadly, however, they are winning the media battle and until the average motorist is better represented we're going to carry on losing to them. If it were to come down to a rational, reasoned debate in a public forum about road safety then I'd say we have a 50:50 chance of restricting camera increases and having a thorough investigation into things like motorway speed limits, traffic calming in urban areas, rural road problems (basically get horses off them !!), dangerous driving (tail-gating, mobile phones, etc.) and other causes of accidents. The ONLY way I can see to achieve that is for us to write to our MPs and carry on writing to them until there's some form of discussion on these matters. If we lose, we'll largely have ourselves to blame..... Rant over (for now.....)

Jason F

1,183 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th August 2001
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I have never seen a speed camera outside a school, Has anyone else? YES I have indeed, 3 weekends running in Billericay ( Only problem, it was A Sunday each time ) I now have a Disposable camera in my car so I can get a piccie of the b****er to send into the papers, but last Sunday when I drove through billericay, Sods law, he wasn`t there.

smeagol

1,947 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th August 2001
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Ah a temporary one, well at least they're trying (now they only have to get the right day!). Further to my point though, the camera mentioned is temporary whereas the Motorway and A road cameras are there all the time (any day of the week). I wish you luck on getting your photgraph as this will help prove the point about cameras and revenue gathering.

Paul V

4,489 posts

278 months

Thursday 16th August 2001
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The chances are they won’t be setting up there during the week as people (hopefully) won’t be speeding past the school on a week day.

Marv

158 posts

274 months

Thursday 16th August 2001
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There are two out of about 8 near schools where I live. But its a rare sight when they are live

smeagol

1,947 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th August 2001
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Don't you believe it Paul. I used to pass a primary school every day and I've followed the dreaded volvo driver that did 40mph in the 60 limit and 40mph past the school (30mph limit). Some drivers just turn on auto-pilot and drive the same speed regardless of the situation. Its these drivers we want to catch not the sports car on a lonely Motorway doing 100. BTW Paul is an excellent name

Marv

158 posts

274 months

Thursday 16th August 2001
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It really gets on my nerves people that drive at 40 everywhere! Sorry just had to get that one out!

ATG

20,702 posts

273 months

Thursday 16th August 2001
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The chances are they won’t be setting up there during the week as people (hopefully) won’t be speeding past the school on a week day.
Uhm ... Paul ... isn't the point that its worth cacthing the tossers who do? Based on the "hopefully" arguement, there isn't any need for any motoring laws coz hopefully everyone is sensible all of the time.

dan

1,068 posts

285 months

Friday 17th August 2001
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There is a school very near to where I live, which is also on the main rat run to the local business estates. I did actually see a speed trap there on a week day at about 8:30 in the morning on a school day!!! Bloody hilarious the queue of people carriers an 4x4s all waiting to be read their rights, all driven by angry self rightous mothers...('timmy was late for trumpet practice' etc..) Made my day

Paul V

4,489 posts

278 months

Friday 17th August 2001
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I agree that the 40 mph brigade and the boy racer mob should be targeted in places like this. The problem is police would rather sit on a bridge over the motorway where they can guarantee results. I don’t believe that everyone has common sense to be careful in built up areas, but most (not all) experienced drivers will. I drive down the A2 every day, it’s packed with cameras, not because of dangerous driving but for revenue.