Speed humps cut accidents ...
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by scrapping them!
Recent reports from TfL for roads in Barnet show that accident rates FELL after speed humps were removed (a programme started in 2002). Motorists were less inclned to speed between the humps to make up time lost in navigating them.
There were also improvements to sight-lines at junctions and removal of unnecessary choke points - such as mini-roundabouts. Reduction in congestion has made driver calmer ... again contributing to the reduction in accidents.
Car, motor-bike and pedal cycle accident rates all fell - by nearly twice the London average. Barnet has exceeded the government target of a 40% reduction in accident rates ... by five percent and four years early!
Of course, it could all be RTTM, but nevertheless, well done Barnet - which had the seventh best safety record in London boroughs in 2005 (against 2004).
BTW - "Red Ken" withheld £1.4m from Barnet's budget when they took out the humps.
Streaky
Recent reports from TfL for roads in Barnet show that accident rates FELL after speed humps were removed (a programme started in 2002). Motorists were less inclned to speed between the humps to make up time lost in navigating them.
There were also improvements to sight-lines at junctions and removal of unnecessary choke points - such as mini-roundabouts. Reduction in congestion has made driver calmer ... again contributing to the reduction in accidents.
Car, motor-bike and pedal cycle accident rates all fell - by nearly twice the London average. Barnet has exceeded the government target of a 40% reduction in accident rates ... by five percent and four years early!
Of course, it could all be RTTM, but nevertheless, well done Barnet - which had the seventh best safety record in London boroughs in 2005 (against 2004).
BTW - "Red Ken" withheld £1.4m from Barnet's budget when they took out the humps.
Streaky
report in May 2004, about Barnet removing them and Ken saying accidents are going UP.
www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/misc/print.php?artid=488772
www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/misc/print.php?artid=488772
After his censure for the appalling 'concentration camp guard' jibe to a jewish reporter, isn't Kengestion Livingdrone cutting it a bit thin making erroneous statements about Barnet's accident record? Couldn't it be interpreted as either incompetence with data, or lying? Neither of these seem appropriate attributes for a Mayor of London.
turbobloke said:
After his censure for the appalling 'concentration camp guard' jibe to a jewish reporter, isn't Kengestion Livingdrone cutting it a bit thin making erroneous statements about Barnet's accident record? Couldn't it be interpreted as either incompetence with data, or lying? Neither of these seem appropriate attributes for a Mayor of London.
I alway though both these atributes were prerequisites for London Mayoral duties and indeed poliiticians as a genre.
Phil
xyyman said:Aye. Those and slippy zippy syndrome plus fragile grundy elastic are perhaps some of their better qualities...
After his censure for the appalling 'concentration camp guard' jibe to a jewish reporter, isn't Kengestion Livingdrone cutting it a bit thin making erroneous statements about Barnet's accident record? Couldn't it be interpreted as either incompetence with data, or lying? Neither of these seem appropriate attributes for a Mayor of London.
I alway though both these atributes were prerequisites for London Mayoral duties and indeed poliiticians as a genre.
Phil
turbobloke said:he is utterly dishonest, so he doesn't care. Lying about this is minor compared with "the congestion charge will not need to increase for ten years" and with his decision to ignore the massive anti vote in the congestion charge extension consultation.
After his censure for the appalling 'concentration camp guard' jibe to a jewish reporter, isn't Kengestion Livingdrone cutting it a bit thin making erroneous statements about Barnet's accident record? Couldn't it be interpreted as either incompetence with data, or lying? Neither of these seem appropriate attributes for a Mayor of London.
The man is a stinking liar, but idiots vote for him and the Tories have been stupid enough to put up Stephen Norris against him twice.
Zod said:Don't forget that this is the duplicitous snake who committed to the Labour Party that if they allowed him to run for the Labour nomination for the first mayoral election and he failed to win that nomination, then he would not run as an independent.
After his censure for the appalling 'concentration camp guard' jibe to a jewish reporter, isn't Kengestion Livingdrone cutting it a bit thin making erroneous statements about Barnet's accident record? Couldn't it be interpreted as either incompetence with data, or lying? Neither of these seem appropriate attributes for a Mayor of London.
The man is a stinking liar, but idiots vote for him and the Tories have been stupid enough to put up Stephen Norris against him twice.
He failed to win the party nomination, so - of course - he broke his word and ran as an independent.
This clown is lower than whale shit.
mybrainhurts said:
Anybody know the Living Stone's email address? I want to congratulate him on his contribution to road safety in Barnet...
Mayor's office:
fax 0207 983 4706
email mayor@london.gov.uk
Edited to add - there appears to be another fax 0207 983 4057
>> Edited by turbobloke on Monday 1st May 23:59
Increase of one accident a week, is this just the average divided by number of weeks, or has it gone from 8 to 9, or 99 to 100?
Have they analysed the root cause of the "accident", or indeed any accidents, is it pedestrians blindly stepping into the road, iPod head phones blasting away, figures alone say nothing, but I think we all know this anyway, except ol Ken.
Honestly I cant believe that by removing the humps, there will be 52 more accidents in the next 12 months?
Have they analysed the root cause of the "accident", or indeed any accidents, is it pedestrians blindly stepping into the road, iPod head phones blasting away, figures alone say nothing, but I think we all know this anyway, except ol Ken.
Honestly I cant believe that by removing the humps, there will be 52 more accidents in the next 12 months?
streaky said:
such as mini-roundabouts...
ok ok - but sometimes they could help ... www.funmansion.com/html/fm-Crazy-Foreign-Traffic.html
mybrainhurts said:
Honestly I cant believe that by removing the humps, there will be 52 more accidents in the next 12 months?
I think you need to read the opening post, old boy....
Sorry, I was referring to the contents of the link Rodney gave, not the opening comments, sorry for that, didnt make myself clear.
sleepezy said:
such as mini-roundabouts...
ok ok - but sometimes they could help ... www.funmansion.com/html/fm-Crazy-Foreign-Traffic.html
Simple really - traffic moving has right of way. What's the problem?
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