Newly Constructed but unopened roads
Newly Constructed but unopened roads
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yzf1070

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814 posts

261 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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Does anyone know for what, if at all, a person can be prosecuted when driving/speed testing along an un-opened stretch of newly constructed dual carriageway or motorway. I am not referring to resurfaced I mean new road way cut through rural land. My thinking is that its not classified as public roads untill opened to the public....and as such you could be prosecuted for ...say...trespassing....?

I ask this because very late on last night whilst driving back to the hotel I noticed two bikes screaming along a new stretch of dual carriageway being constructed...My first thought was nutters...but then I thought well at least they are not on the open public highway but I hope that they had slowly run up the road way first checking for any debris before going for the fast run/s.

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

307 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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I have a scar to prove how dumb that is!

As a sixteen year old a new bypass which looked pretty much complete, but not yet opened, was a very attractive thing to a mate and I. We decided to settle the FS1-E vs SS50 argument once and for all, and staged a race down the length of this virgin tarmac.

It was dark. Very dark. Not wanting to attract undue attention we raced with no lights.

Thing is, it seems there was some tarmac left over, and it was left in a nice pile about 1 mile down the road. Things were going great until suddenly I found myself in between two mopeds, lying atop my own, with my mates on top of me with the rear wheel spinning on my neck (the scar). I had skid marks right down my helmet and no skin left between hairline and shoulder. Lots of other bumps and bruises too, but miraculouly nothing broken.

We'd hit the mound of tarmac, which we didn't even see when we'd hit it, and took off. We landed in a heap about thirty metres after the mound. Pushing the twisted mopeds home while bleeding and smarting was fun.

The daft bit is because it was so dark, and things went pear shaped so suddenly, we had no idea who was "winning" at the time either - though I always maintained that since he landed on top of me I must have gone first!

A lucky escape. That ramp shaped mound of tarmac could just as easily have been a six foot sheer wall. Or a steamroller, genny, or any number of pieces of road building equipment.

7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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I think you'd be opening yourself up for a S59 caution these days -- not on the public highway and going a bit quick.

KB_S1

5,967 posts

259 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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I once 'failed to notice' a sign stating that a road was closed late one night.

Rural road that I knew well, could see the entire length of it from start, alternative route added 12 miles to the 5 mile journey.

Perfect road surface, no machinery or workers (i had heard from a reliable source that they had packed up and left 2 days earlier and were waiting over the weekend for the road marking team) very enjoyable drive, blissfully unaware of my 'mistake'.

Best bit was meeting another 'mistaken' driver coming the other way on a narrow S bend section, we both simply adjusted lines and passed by each other, as you would do any other time.

Yugguy

10,728 posts

265 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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My Dad remembers playing on the M6 Preston by-pass (first motorway in UK) while it was being built and the older kids trying to get the jcbs going.

droopsnoot

14,716 posts

272 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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A local guy was in the papers some years back when a new bypass had been built, because he'd been stopped for speeding (in a single-seater) on the bypass which at that time was not yet open to the public. As far as I recall, he escaped prosecution. However I understand this was because the bypass was built on old farmland, which had been purchased from the driver (who owned the farm) and had not yet been paid for. He argued that although it was a tarmaced road, technically it was on his own private land (as the highways people hadn't paid for it yet) and so he could do what he liked.

I must stress I don't recall the exact details, but the above is the gist of it.

aldi

9,288 posts

267 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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My dad took his bike up the M6 before it opened... he also once escaped from the police driving a Ford Anglia

7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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It's also unlikely that signage would be complete on a new road, of the TRO in good order. But I think speeding is the least of your worries.

bad company

21,919 posts

296 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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Would there not also be a small matter of having no valid insurance?