is it legal or an obstruction?
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just got back from hols in north Yorkshire and noticed that where a NSL goes into a 30 limit they have raised red ridges across the road to slow you down, however they go right across the two lanes (both directions) therefore you also have to drive over these suspension wrecking ridges after leaving the 30 limit and well into the NSL, my question is are these an obstruction in the NSL limit as they do not apply after you enter the NSL when going the other way as all they had to do was put them across half the road?
My RX-7 has race suspension and really hates this sort of waste of paint, each line feels like driving over a scamera van operator (so I suppose it's nice in that respect). Why do they do it, does it actually achieve anything? The faster I go over them the less hazard they become.
If you ask them why they're all the way across they'll probably say to slow vehicles that are over taking into the 30.
If you ask them why they're all the way across they'll probably say to slow vehicles that are over taking into the 30.
Yes these things are a confounded nuisance as far as I am concerned. It looks to me as if North Yorkshire has acquired a new enthusiasm for these abominations which have appeared in numerous parts of the county in the last year or two - at least on the roads I travel. This is a backward step IMHO and I'm disappointed that NYCC (previously a sensible regime I thought) have adopted this nonsense.
It would be bad enough if they confined themselves to wasting paint on the road, but many of them are actually strips of coloured concrete which produce a physical disturbance to the car as you drive over them. No doubt they think of it as a form of traffic calming - stupid term that it is too - whereas what we really need is driver calming.
It does seem ironic that I seldom get irritated by what other road users do, but I do get annoyed at safety measures of this type. In terms of their intended effect they could have the reverse of what is sought. Huh, safety experts eh?
Best wishes all,
Dave.
It would be bad enough if they confined themselves to wasting paint on the road, but many of them are actually strips of coloured concrete which produce a physical disturbance to the car as you drive over them. No doubt they think of it as a form of traffic calming - stupid term that it is too - whereas what we really need is driver calming.
It does seem ironic that I seldom get irritated by what other road users do, but I do get annoyed at safety measures of this type. In terms of their intended effect they could have the reverse of what is sought. Huh, safety experts eh?
Best wishes all,
Dave.
I drove over those things once on the approach to a roundabout, caused my car to lose traction (not a surprise given it significantly reduces adhesion of tyre and road) and almost caused me to crash when it was pouring with rain. And I was well within the speed limit as well, as it was raining and at night.........Feckin' dangerous they are IMHO.
Dwight Vandriver said:
The address you want Dave is:
Traffic Mangement Department,
North Yorkshire County Council,
Racecourse Lane,
Northallerton
N Yorks.
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dvd
Traffic Mangement Department,
North Yorkshire County Council,
Racecourse Lane,
Northallerton
N Yorks.
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dvd
Thank you very much DVD. That is most kind of you. I shall write a letter and advise them accordingly.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
jasandjules said:
I drove over those things once on the approach to a roundabout, caused my car to lose traction (not a surprise given it significantly reduces adhesion of tyre and road) and almost caused me to crash when it was pouring with rain. And I was well within the speed limit as well, as it was raining and at night.........Feckin' dangerous they are IMHO.
Depending on where they are placed in relation to a braking area, these rumble strips (or whatever they are called) could pose a practical problem, and I know other PHers have previously complained bitterly about this factor. To be honest I don't have that sort of difficulty with them as I'm not a late braker, but I do sympathise with you.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
You wanna try those sort of raised lines on a sports bike!
I get shaken with fairly flat painted Gatso lines on my bike at low speed.
A potential safety hazard I would say esp in adverse weather conditions even worse with two small rubber contact patches!
I get shaken with fairly flat painted Gatso lines on my bike at low speed.
A potential safety hazard I would say esp in adverse weather conditions even worse with two small rubber contact patches!
Edited by sjtscott on Monday 19th June 17:12
Its odd - there are several places where I've seen them used supposedly to good effect, i.e. at the end of a long dual carriageway where it hits an "unexpected" roundabout.
The silly thing is, if you hadn't noticed the r/b coming and needed to slow in a hurry from NSL+ speeds, a bunch of paint on the carriageway is the last thing you want!
Would it not be better to have 1 or 2 shorter patches of strips earlier to wake up the dozy ones and leave the braking zone as grippy as possible?
The only reason I can see for having strips across both sides of a single carriageway is to stop people driving around them, which seems a bit pointless.
The silly thing is, if you hadn't noticed the r/b coming and needed to slow in a hurry from NSL+ speeds, a bunch of paint on the carriageway is the last thing you want!
Would it not be better to have 1 or 2 shorter patches of strips earlier to wake up the dozy ones and leave the braking zone as grippy as possible?
The only reason I can see for having strips across both sides of a single carriageway is to stop people driving around them, which seems a bit pointless.
sjtscott said:
You wanna try those sort of raised lines on a sports bike!
I get shaken with fairly flat painted Gatso lines on my bike at low speed.
A potential safety hazard I would say esp in adverse weather conditions even worse with two small rubber contact patches!
I get shaken with fairly flat painted Gatso lines on my bike at low speed.
A potential safety hazard I would say esp in adverse weather conditions even worse with two small rubber contact patches!
Edited by sjtscott on Monday 19th June 17:12
Yes OK, fair enough. I was speaking as one who is never on less than four wheels.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
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