My Speedo is 100% Accurate !
My Speedo is 100% Accurate !
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shuvitupya

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3,338 posts

247 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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Hi Guys & Girls,

Just bought a Citroen C4 which has a digital speedometer.

I have compared the C4 Speedometer to GPS speed reading and the C4 speedo matched the GPS speed exactly or within 1mph at all speeds up to 90mph. (Not on a public road of course)

Cars with normal speedometers have never been this accurate, so is this Citroen C4 calibrated at the factory, and does anyone know of other cars that exactly match GPS speed up to 100mph ?

COL87

166 posts

245 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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How far out is a speedo normally then?

icamm

2,153 posts

290 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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When I took my Griff to Bruntingthorpe (sp) a couple of years ago it was accurate on their timing gun to 157 (my max speed of the day).

paulmjg66

2,786 posts

244 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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most cars show about 7% fast,my cupra r reads slightly fast to my tom,tom.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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My car is 16 years old and the speedo is 100% accurate, but then all of them are, its just the standard.

paulmjg66

2,786 posts

244 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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work in the car trade,get many a customer saying the speedo reads high to gps speed.

FortJefferson

8,237 posts

252 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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shuvitupya said:


Cars with normal speedometers have never been this accurate,


By "normal" you must be refering to old cars with cable driven speedo's. A lot of speedo's digital or not are electronic and are a lot more accurate than you think. "Scotty UK" has an S4 like mine, and at V max, he did 164mph, on his speedo, GPS and the official timing gear. There is a video of it on here somewhere.

Edit.. here is a capture from his 164mph run



Edited by FortJefferson on Wednesday 12th July 23:09

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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Follow a lorry, you'll often read higher than 56. The Porker does it by design but there is a hack for the OBC that lets you show actual speed. Cunning these Germans

paulmjg66

2,786 posts

244 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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had a thought,would it make a difference if you had new tyres or bald tyres fitted to the speedo reading???

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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2-2.5mph overreading all across the range on mine.

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Wednesday 12th July 2006
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FortJefferson said:
[quote=shuvitupya]

Edit.. here is a capture from his 164mph run





164mph, at an air temp of TWO degrees?!? Yikes.
And still 9 miles to the gallon...not bad!

Flat in Fifth

48,883 posts

281 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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In my experience Citroens are renowned for accurate speedos. Many a BX as tested were 100% cock on. Couple of Xantias I tested were more typical of other makes ie 3-5% fast.

My own wheels are about 1 -1.5 mph fast right up to :ahem: err 70 mph(ish) M'lud.

supermono

7,464 posts

278 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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A car can't possibly know accurately how fast it's going, but only how fast its wheels are going round. Tyre pressures, load, tread depth, etc will all affect the conversion from wheel RPM -> car MPH. If the speedo is dead accurate, it won't always be at all speeds. The GPS is measuring exactly how fast its position is changing and is therefore always accurate.

SM

J500ANT

3,103 posts

269 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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Both of my smarts are reasonably accurate - within 1 or 2mph at the lower speeds, HWWLTTHMBO's SEAT Altea is a bit further out (the only one I can remember is 80 on the speedo is a GPS'd 76) but his 03 Mondeo was 10% over right the way through the range.

gridgway

1,001 posts

275 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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one of the surprises on my newly acquired TVR Tamora is that the digi speedo readout exactly matches that of the origin B2 fitted.
Graham

justinp1

13,363 posts

260 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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shuvitupya said:
Hi Guys & Girls,

Just bought a Citroen C4 which has a digital speedometer.

I have compared the C4 Speedometer to GPS speed reading and the C4 speedo matched the GPS speed exactly or within 1mph at all speeds up to 90mph. (Not on a public road of course)

Cars with normal speedometers have never been this accurate, so is this Citroen C4 calibrated at the factory, and does anyone know of other cars that exactly match GPS speed up to 100mph ?


Couple of ideas here:

If it has SatNav, perhaps the speedo is calibrated against the GPS signal?

Secondly, thinking about it, speedos should be set so they are as close as possible when the tyres are new. As the tread wears the wheels will have to spin slightly faster to get the same speed however the speedo doesnt know this, all it knows is X revolutions per minute = Y miles per hour and thus overreads.

supermono

7,464 posts

278 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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justinp1 said:
If it has SatNav, perhaps the speedo is calibrated against the GPS signal?


That would be a smart idea. The instrument would have to have a backup system for when you were in a tunnel or something, but generally if you have that information, why not use it?

SM

SJobson

13,872 posts

294 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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My S2 Elise had a very accurate speedo. Quite irritating following other cars with over-reading speedometers though!

However, the difference in radius between new tyres and old ones could be 6.4mm. On a rolling radius of, say, 300mm that's a 2% variation; if the speedo is not to underread at any point then it can only be perfectly accurate when the tyres are new. So with worn tyres, you're looking at a 2% overread.

Lambochick

1,462 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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SJobson said:
My S2 Elise had a very accurate speedo. Quite irritating following other cars with over-reading speedometers though!

However, the difference in radius between new tyres and old ones could be 6.4mm. On a rolling radius of, say, 300mm that's a 2% variation; if the speedo is not to underread at any point then it can only be perfectly accurate when the tyres are new. So with worn tyres, you're looking at a 2% overread.


Whilst the radius may differ by 2%, the margin of change when compared to the change in circumference is a lot smaller. Therefore a 2% change in speedo reading is an overestimate.



Edited by Lambochick on Thursday 13th July 18:00

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

286 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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FWIW, the speedo on my Forester is about 10% fast compared to my new TomTom. I didn't think it would be so far out.