How to stop someone parking on your property?
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We have a small area of gravel carpark (parking for 4 cars) at work and are having problems with a neighbour who has lived next door 6-7 months. He has been asked politely on several occasions to move his car so the staff can park and I have explained nicely that he has no rights to park on the land at any time.
I thought this was resolved but it turns out he is waiting for us to leave and then parking there and moving before we arrive in the morning. Had he asked and/or offered to help with the rental/maintenance costs I may have considered this but now I just want to know what my rights are? I have "private parking, you may be clamped signs" but short of putting locking posts up what can I do? I don't really want to call in the clampers and I wouldn't know who to call.
Thanks for your advice.
I thought this was resolved but it turns out he is waiting for us to leave and then parking there and moving before we arrive in the morning. Had he asked and/or offered to help with the rental/maintenance costs I may have considered this but now I just want to know what my rights are? I have "private parking, you may be clamped signs" but short of putting locking posts up what can I do? I don't really want to call in the clampers and I wouldn't know who to call.
Thanks for your advice.
Although it's a shit that he parks there secretly (it would annoy me too) perhaps there's a neighbourly way to resolve the situation. Enforcement seems unnecessary if he is now doing no harm.. in a sense, by making it appear that someone is on the premises he may actually be improving security.
How about approaching him, and suggesting he pays some nominal fee e.g. 5 quid a week for parking there in strictly out of office hours (e.g. 7pm -> 7am) so it won't inconvenience justified in that you have to pay for the parking spots - and stick the money in a staff kitty and spend it all on drinks at xmas?
dave
How about approaching him, and suggesting he pays some nominal fee e.g. 5 quid a week for parking there in strictly out of office hours (e.g. 7pm -> 7am) so it won't inconvenience justified in that you have to pay for the parking spots - and stick the money in a staff kitty and spend it all on drinks at xmas?
dave
davidra said:
Although it's a shit that he parks there secretly (it would annoy me too) perhaps there's a neighbourly way to resolve the situation. Enforcement seems unnecessary if he is now doing no harm.. in a sense, by making it appear that someone is on the premises he may actually be improving security.
How about approaching him, and suggesting he pays some nominal fee e.g. 5 quid a week for parking there in strictly out of office hours (e.g. 7pm -> 7am) so it won't inconvenience justified in that you have to pay for the parking spots - and stick the money in a staff kitty and spend it all on drinks at xmas?
dave
How about approaching him, and suggesting he pays some nominal fee e.g. 5 quid a week for parking there in strictly out of office hours (e.g. 7pm -> 7am) so it won't inconvenience justified in that you have to pay for the parking spots - and stick the money in a staff kitty and spend it all on drinks at xmas?
dave
I think this is a best way forward.
I have always found that if you are in a position of power such as an employer or land owner the first way would be to ask in a reasonable way.
If that gets no joy, you can explain to the person that you are actually *allowing* them to do the thing you have been asking them not to. However, they will have to pay you to do it. In this example, you could put up a sign and explain that the cost for parking is £5 for an up to 12 hour period. Then he would have to choose whether to take you up on your offer, and thus give you a legal recourse to claim the money.
I would guess this would stop this.
The other way would be to show how annoyed you are my instead of parking in the car park, park on his drive for a couple of days. That should let him know how annoying it can be.
The last resort would be to contact a clamping company. They would put up a sign probably for free and this would deter him.
After all is said and done I respect a man for tolerating an annoyance that is essentially doing no harm, perhaps is doing him a favour. Taking drastic action on it will just provoke bad karma or possibly a tit-for-tat squabble. People can do without these in their daily lives and to give any kind of business to a clamping company is encouraging daylight robbery!
OK, it looks like you'd have rolled over and taken it up the wrong-un but the occasional joking comment to him over the course of time might actually make him feel like he's taking advantage.
If that doesn't have an effect then block him in for a few hours so hes late for work. Then politely remark that he's welcome to park there any time but may well get stuck if he's there at the wrong time and had he come to an arrangement it wouldn't have happened.
On a slightly different slant & I'm no legal expert, is there any potential that you could actually be liable for anything that could potentially happen to him whilst he's in the act of parking on your land?
For example, if he drove on and twisted his ankle whilst walking across your land do you have some kind of public / 3rd party liability / duty of care for this that you may not be aware of?
Perhaps there's a potential that your good nature could actually invite a load of hassle?
....I'm sure one of the legal eagles on here could clarify this.
For example, if he drove on and twisted his ankle whilst walking across your land do you have some kind of public / 3rd party liability / duty of care for this that you may not be aware of?
Perhaps there's a potential that your good nature could actually invite a load of hassle?
....I'm sure one of the legal eagles on here could clarify this.
se9boy said:
On a slightly different slant & I'm no legal expert, is there any potential that you could actually be liable for anything that could potentially happen to him whilst he's in the act of parking on your land?
For example, if he drove on and twisted his ankle whilst walking across your land do you have some kind of public / 3rd party liability / duty of care for this that you may not be aware of?
Perhaps there's a potential that your good nature could actually invite a load of hassle?
....I'm sure one of the legal eagles on here could clarify this.
For example, if he drove on and twisted his ankle whilst walking across your land do you have some kind of public / 3rd party liability / duty of care for this that you may not be aware of?
Perhaps there's a potential that your good nature could actually invite a load of hassle?
....I'm sure one of the legal eagles on here could clarify this.
Correct, but a standard home or business insurance usually covers this as standard.
Parrot of Doom said:
Get a big sheet of paper, print "NO PARKING" on it, and stick it to his windscreen with ultra-bastard glue.
It'll stop.
It'll stop.
We use that horrible brown tape (parcel tape?) purely because it sticks really well & leaves a mark on the offending windscreens, super glue would likely lead to provoking a reaction whereas people don't think the tape marks are deliberate!
if the guy has an accident on your land and there is no disclaimer to that effect then he can sue u even though trespassing
does he park there on a weekend when u are not there ?
fit some lockable gates / bollard in the entrance and lock him in at night / weekend
or find someone with a truck that can park in the entrance for free
but too be honest, if there is not much car parking around and he is parking there when ur not, is it really such a big deal ?
does he park there on a weekend when u are not there ?
fit some lockable gates / bollard in the entrance and lock him in at night / weekend
or find someone with a truck that can park in the entrance for free
but too be honest, if there is not much car parking around and he is parking there when ur not, is it really such a big deal ?
Why does it matter if he is parking at a time when it does not inconvience you? Find it rather ironic that there are frequently threads about wankers of clampers etc, and here we are where someone is thinking if using them!
I run a community centre and have a problem with a local car workshop using the car park for customer cars. It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the fact they are there when the users of my hall want to park. I have looked at clamping but you need to pay the clamping firms, plus they get the clamp fee!
I run a community centre and have a problem with a local car workshop using the car park for customer cars. It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the fact they are there when the users of my hall want to park. I have looked at clamping but you need to pay the clamping firms, plus they get the clamp fee!
Write and offer a parking facility at hours other than normal office hours for a monthly fee in advance of say £40.
You don't want him to be able to claim any rights at any time and you could say that, if he parks there, he will be deemed to have accepted your offer.
Legally, of course, this could be bollox!
You don't want him to be able to claim any rights at any time and you could say that, if he parks there, he will be deemed to have accepted your offer.
Legally, of course, this could be bollox!
I think it's disgraceful that someone should continue to park on *your* land after being told not to, presumably after weighing up the cost v benefit of allowing him to continue to do so.
I would go round to his house one day when he's out and shag his wife .. if he complains say : " well you weren't using her at the time" .. see how he feels.
I would go round to his house one day when he's out and shag his wife .. if he complains say : " well you weren't using her at the time" .. see how he feels.
...sounds like a fair swap for a parking space
Thanks for all the replies. I think the best option is to put bollards up but it's a PITA if they have to be opened/locked daily.
When I spoke to him before we could have come to an arrangement (a bottle/box of chocs/do the weeding/rake the gravel etc etc) but he didn't and now he's trying to be a smart @rse thinking he won't get caught. Even simpler he could just have asked if it was okay to park there at night.
If it is left it will just be the start of things, others parking there, the carpark's not full during the day so why don't I just park there. Others have already put gates up to stop him parking on their land. Now he is parking on someones drive after he sees them go to work. If he paid for a parking spot (less then £100 a year) he could have one opposite his house or a free one if he could be bothered to walk 15 sec to his front door.
When I spoke to him before we could have come to an arrangement (a bottle/box of chocs/do the weeding/rake the gravel etc etc) but he didn't and now he's trying to be a smart @rse thinking he won't get caught. Even simpler he could just have asked if it was okay to park there at night.
If it is left it will just be the start of things, others parking there, the carpark's not full during the day so why don't I just park there. Others have already put gates up to stop him parking on their land. Now he is parking on someones drive after he sees them go to work. If he paid for a parking spot (less then £100 a year) he could have one opposite his house or a free one if he could be bothered to walk 15 sec to his front door.
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