New child seat belt law
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Gently Bentley

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964 posts

241 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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Do we all know about the change in the law? I see the taxi drivers are moaning because they may have to provide various child seats depending on the age size and height of the child. To my mind have a few at the base and the driver can pick them up when the customer informs them they have a 2 year old and an 8 year old. Where is the problem? What do you think?

chrisgr31

14,289 posts

285 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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Gently Bentley said:
Do we all know about the change in the law? I see the taxi drivers are moaning because they may have to provide various child seats depending on the age size and height of the child. To my mind have a few at the base and the driver can pick them up when the customer informs them they have a 2 year old and an 8 year old. Where is the problem? What do you think?


There's no problem, as Taxis are exempt!

Gently Bentley

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964 posts

241 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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I would check that because they are not. To qualify that Private hire cars also.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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Taxis are exempt from all motoring laws. Don't you know that?

Gently Bentley

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964 posts

241 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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Parrot of Doom said:
Taxis are exempt from all motoring laws. Don't you know that?


Ha ha ha ha......... I stand corrected. Does this include the "I have my hazard lights on I can stop anywhere law" and the "I can pull a U-Turn anywhere without notice law"

grinder

13 posts

241 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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this law is in cm's and as i dont understand what they are dont apply to me?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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Taxis are exempt as are short journeys.

"There are some specific practical exemptions - for taxis, emergency vehicles, and, for children aged three and over, journeys over a short distance in an unexpected necessity."

Gently Bentley

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241 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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Plotloss said:
Taxis are exempt as are short journeys.

"There are some specific practical exemptions - for taxis, emergency vehicles, and, for children aged three and over, journeys over a short distance in an unexpected necessity."


Thanks. i checked it out. Taxis and private hires are exempt provided 3 and over are in the rear wearing adult seat belts. Children under 135cm travelling in the front must be on a booster or child seat. Children under 3 in the rear only but can be un-retstrained. The over a short distance one in an unexpected necessity is bordering on dodgy though. If you have a car seat use it people.

speedchick

5,288 posts

252 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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Has anyone actually tried getting a car seat at the moment? We ditched our booster seats about a year ago as we thought the kids were too old. Now my 9 and 11 year olds need booster seats (one of them is only 2cm under the height). The seats cannot be got for love nor money, I even resorted to Mothercare and Halfords (spit... I object to going in there!) with no joy.

I am not forking out £200 on full seats, when all I need is 2 boosters for about 6 months each! (and is it my imagination or have the price of seats suddenly rocketed?)

notimpressed

25 posts

241 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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Taxis ARE exempt from these laws.

Gently Bentley

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241 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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notimpressed said:
Taxis ARE exempt from these laws.


Oh no there not.

this could go on a bit.....

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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fluffnik

20,156 posts

257 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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vonhosen said:


Oooooh.., that's well drafted. Not!

So, a mum and toddler caught in a downpour cannot legally be given a lift by a neighbour, but they can hire an equally unsafe cab.

Yet another bit of ill-considered needless meddling.

cmsapms

708 posts

274 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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vonhosen said:


So will rozzers be carrying official height measurement devices?

Will the child under scrutiny have to remove their shoes?
Even in the rain?

Will there be a right of appeal?
Perhaps a remeasurement the following morning when
they'll have grown both naturally, and due to having
8 hours horizontal?

I find it incredible that I've lived so long (41 yrs) given that I wasn't subject to all this state interference rolleyes Are modern children really so pathetic yes

maxrider

2,481 posts

266 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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cmsapms said:
vonhosen said:


So will rozzers be carrying official height measurement devices?

Will the child under scrutiny have to remove their shoes?
Even in the rain?

Will there be a right of appeal?
Perhaps a remeasurement the following morning when
they'll have grown both naturally, and due to having
8 hours horizontal?

I find it incredible that I've lived so long (41 yrs) given that I wasn't subject to all this state interference rolleyes Are modern children really so pathetic yes


From what I can see its practically unenforceable anyway, or are they going to introduce 'Height Cameras'.
Another load of bollox from our dictators.

lunarscope

2,901 posts

272 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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cmsapms said:
vonhosen said:


So will rozzers be carrying official height measurement devices?

Will the child under scrutiny have to remove their shoes?
Even in the rain?

Will there be a right of appeal?
Perhaps a remeasurement the following morning when
they'll have grown both naturally, and due to having
8 hours horizontal?

I find it incredible that I've lived so long (41 yrs) given that I wasn't subject to all this state interference rolleyes Are modern children really so pathetic yes


I also presume all BiB will now have to carry a Home Office type-approved measuring device.
Will this have to be formally checked at the start and end of each measuring session ?
What about expansion due to changes in ambient temperature ?
etc, etc, etc...

cooperman

4,428 posts

280 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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lunarscope said:
cmsapms said:
vonhosen said:


So will rozzers be carrying official height measurement devices?

Will the child under scrutiny have to remove their shoes?
Even in the rain?

Will there be a right of appeal?
Perhaps a remeasurement the following morning when
they'll have grown both naturally, and due to having
8 hours horizontal?

I find it incredible that I've lived so long (41 yrs) given that I wasn't subject to all this state interference rolleyes Are modern children really so pathetic yes


I also presume all BiB will now have to carry a Home Office type-approved measuring device.
Will this have to be formally checked at the start and end of each measuring session ?
What about expansion due to changes in ambient temperature ?
etc, etc, etc...


It's not modern children that are pathetic, they're wonderful, it's this 'nanny state' so-called government that's pathetic.

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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cmsapms said:
vonhosen said:


So will rozzers be carrying official height measurement devices?


Yes, but they'll have to be officially calibrated - and there'll be an expert witness along from Stanley to tell the courts why that particular tape measure does not ever produce slip error, due to some special software.


streaky

19,311 posts

279 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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lunarscope said:
I also presume all BiB will now have to carry a Home Office type-approved measuring device.
[ ... ]
What about expansion due to changes in ambient temperature ?
The children or the measuring equipment? - Streaky

herewego

8,814 posts

243 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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fluffnik said:
vonhosen said:


Oooooh.., that's well drafted. Not!

So, a mum and toddler caught in a downpour cannot legally be given a lift by a neighbour, but they can hire an equally unsafe cab.



Couldn't that be classed as an unexpected necessity?

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Edited by herewego on Friday 29th September 10:37


Edited by herewego on Friday 29th September 10:39