Can someone clear up a query about drink driving?
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The security guard for the apartment complex was telling me he had been disqualified for driving with a headlight not working. Turns out it was actually because they stopped him for the light and breathalysed him and found him over the limit (how far I don't know)
It sounds like he had already points on his licence and has an 18month ban. Roughly how far over the limit do you have to be to get an 18month ban?
I'm just being nosey to be honest. The problem we have with him is he appears to be continually drunk, as last night he was incoherant, slurring his words and being a little sleazy. And thus ends the little walk into my mind.
It sounds like he had already points on his licence and has an 18month ban. Roughly how far over the limit do you have to be to get an 18month ban?
I'm just being nosey to be honest. The problem we have with him is he appears to be continually drunk, as last night he was incoherant, slurring his words and being a little sleazy. And thus ends the little walk into my mind.
Oh where to start. It depends is the answer. It depends on the circumstances of the case his previous convictions which the court can take into account. How much over actually is not a major factor. Over a wee bit over a big bit. Your still over.
it also depends on the Sheriff (Scottish judge) some are heavy on drink drivers some not so heavy on the bans but big on the fines.
If he is always drunk and he works for you offer occupational welfare. He may be an alcoholic which is a recognised illness and you as an employer have a duty to address this. If you get rid of him because he is a drunk he may go to a tribunal and claim you knew he was ill and did nothing to help him.
Just a thought.
it also depends on the Sheriff (Scottish judge) some are heavy on drink drivers some not so heavy on the bans but big on the fines.
If he is always drunk and he works for you offer occupational welfare. He may be an alcoholic which is a recognised illness and you as an employer have a duty to address this. If you get rid of him because he is a drunk he may go to a tribunal and claim you knew he was ill and did nothing to help him.
Just a thought.
Luckily he is employed by a security company who then provide us with a bloke in the office at nights. I'm just bothered by the fact he seems unable to hold a conversation and walk in a straight line whilst supposed to be on duty.
I really don't want to get him the sack, and I do believe he's a nice bloke, but there is just something wrong and I don't know where to start.
He did mention that the police could smell alcohol on his breath when they stopped him. It does seem he can't accept what happened though - he kept saying that the police are pigs because they took away his car because he didn't have a light working, but failed to mention when he regails this story (which is nearly every time I see him) that he was also drinking (as he once admitted)
I really don't want to get him the sack, and I do believe he's a nice bloke, but there is just something wrong and I don't know where to start.
He did mention that the police could smell alcohol on his breath when they stopped him. It does seem he can't accept what happened though - he kept saying that the police are pigs because they took away his car because he didn't have a light working, but failed to mention when he regails this story (which is nearly every time I see him) that he was also drinking (as he once admitted)
from what I hear of this guy the poor soul sounds like an alcoholic. Denial is a big part of the illness.
Ok what about this though. He is the security guard on duty. There is a fire and he can,t react because he is drunk and the place burns down or God forbid somebody is injured and you know he is not fit to be doing the job.
Flag it up. Don't regret it.
Ok what about this though. He is the security guard on duty. There is a fire and he can,t react because he is drunk and the place burns down or God forbid somebody is injured and you know he is not fit to be doing the job.
Flag it up. Don't regret it.
The defective light was the reason he was stopped... The Alcohol was secondary, thats generally how it works.
You should really have a word with your security supplier because they have a duty of care to their employees, they cant just sack, they have to go through a whole series of procedures before they can do that...and it maybe the imputous he needs to get professional help.
If something happens at your place of work, e.g. break in etc and your insurers find out you have a drunk security gaurd, they will tell you to "Go Whistle" for the payout.
You should really have a word with your security supplier because they have a duty of care to their employees, they cant just sack, they have to go through a whole series of procedures before they can do that...and it maybe the imputous he needs to get professional help.
If something happens at your place of work, e.g. break in etc and your insurers find out you have a drunk security gaurd, they will tell you to "Go Whistle" for the payout.
I will have to mention something. Always thought he was a bit odd but it was last night when he was slurring how beautiful I looked when it really clicked.
There are several issues that need to be flagged up - we have no fire extinguishers, blankets or sand anywhere in the car park or ground floors of the complex, and I can't recall seeing any fire extinguishers else where. I'll bring them up with the other directors and also his employer.
I really do feel quite sorry for him now, but I've got a duty of care to the residents and their safety and well being should be paramount. Lets hope that his company will provide him with the help that he so obviously needs.
There are several issues that need to be flagged up - we have no fire extinguishers, blankets or sand anywhere in the car park or ground floors of the complex, and I can't recall seeing any fire extinguishers else where. I'll bring them up with the other directors and also his employer.
I really do feel quite sorry for him now, but I've got a duty of care to the residents and their safety and well being should be paramount. Lets hope that his company will provide him with the help that he so obviously needs.
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