Police motorcyclists
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SamHH

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5,078 posts

246 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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What is the official reasoning for having police motorcyclists in the UK? I can only imagine it is because they are able to get through traffic faster than cars when responding to an emergency. But if this is the reason wouldn't a much greater proportion of police vehicles be motorcycles?

Are all police motorcyclists part of traffic departments? Do all UK police forces have motorcyclists?

Please note these are genuine questions asked out of curiosity. I'm not 'having a go' at police mtorcyclists.

^Slider^

2,874 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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They are roads policing officers, and from what i understand they are used for escorts rather than responding to incidents.

Majority of forces have motorcycles but there are not many riders. Depends on the size of the force.

vim fuego

2,423 posts

251 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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we had one for traffic enforcement for a while in Cheshire – unmarked bmw

give away sam browne belt I suppose if you were speeding and just looking straight ahead then you’d not notice

there are one or two others marked ones mainly just patrolling

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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SamHH said:
What is the official reasoning for having police motorcyclists in the UK? I can only imagine it is because they are able to get through traffic faster than cars when responding to an emergency. But if this is the reason wouldn't a much greater proportion of police vehicles be motorcycles?


Variety of reasons.

SamHH said:

Are all police motorcyclists part of traffic departments? Do all UK police forces have motorcyclists?


Not all are traffic, various departments utilise them. Don't know about all forces though, I believe some got rid & rue doing so.

Fortjefferson

8,237 posts

252 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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vim fuego said:
we had one for traffic enforcement for a while in Cheshire – unmarked bmw

Marked vehicles enforce, unmarked vehicles only punish.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Fortjefferson said:
vim fuego said:
we had one for traffic enforcement for a while in Cheshire – unmarked bmw

Marked vehicles enforce, unmarked vehicles only punish.


Not true.

andmole

1,594 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Fortjefferson said:
vim fuego said:
we had one for traffic enforcement for a while in Cheshire – unmarked bmw

Marked vehicles enforce, unmarked vehicles only punish.


Sounds about right!

SamHH

Original Poster:

5,078 posts

246 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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vonhosen said:

Variety of reasons.


Could you elaborate?

vonhosen said:

Not all are traffic, various departments utilise them.


Which other departments?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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SamHH said:
vonhosen said:

Variety of reasons.


Could you elaborate?

vonhosen said:

Not all are traffic, various departments utilise them.


Which other departments?


Training, Protection, Intelligence gathering, Anti social behaviour etc

bleesh

1,112 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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There was a program called Bike Cops on Men and Motors earlier on.
didn't see most of it but did see a bit where BiB was speaking
to a yoof with w&nka lights (red led washer jets).

Told him he could not have red lights facing forward (I understand
that OK), but then proceeded to say that they could be blue, if the lad
wanted.

Is that right?? I thought you were only supposed to show white lights
to the front, and blue were for BiB??

Steve

gently bentley

964 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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bleesh said:
There was a program called Bike Cops on Men and Motors earlier on.
didn't see most of it but did see a bit where BiB was speaking
to a yoof with w&nka lights (red led washer jets).

Told him he could not have red lights facing forward (I understand
that OK), but then proceeded to say that they could be blue, if the lad
wanted.

Is that right?? I thought you were only supposed to show white lights
to the front, and blue were for BiB??

Steve


Thats right as far as I know. covered by the c&u regs supported by the RTA 88. White or euro yellow to the front only.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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gently bentley said:
bleesh said:
There was a program called Bike Cops on Men and Motors earlier on.
didn't see most of it but did see a bit where BiB was speaking
to a yoof with w&nka lights (red led washer jets).

Told him he could not have red lights facing forward (I understand
that OK), but then proceeded to say that they could be blue, if the lad
wanted.

Is that right?? I thought you were only supposed to show white lights
to the front, and blue were for BiB??

Steve


Thats right as far as I know. covered by the c&u regs supported by the RTA 88. White or euro yellow to the front only.


That traffic officer was correct.
The Road Vehicle Lighting Regs don't specifically forbid blue screen wash lights at present, but there would be an offence of showing a red light to the front.

Tonyrec

3,984 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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A Police Solo is apparently the most expensive 'vehicle' to maintain on the fleet.

oogieboogie

710 posts

239 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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I always assumed the bikes were to keep up with the bikers - Lord knows a Plod car wouldn't match me on 2 wheels if it was necessary to make a hasty retreat!

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

241 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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Bikes are often used at ANPR sites. They are also usefull for other crime orientated matters as well as roads policing.

With regards un-marked cars. They are used not just by traffic and personally speaking the lads breaking into a car as we approached it in an un-marked vehicle a while back would in my opinion be a very worthwhile use of them.