Friday 21st March 2003

Hide the Cameras

Transport 2000 promote backward step in road safety

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Just as some common sense was being applied to the use of Speed Cameras, Transport 2000 has challenged the policy of painting them yellow.

Not all cameras have to be painted yellow - only those operated by police forces under the 'hypothecation' scheme which allows them to reinvest the revenues in road safety schemes.

Despite recent studies by the Government which supposedly back up the use of cameras as accident reduction tools, Transport 2000 felt strongly that motorists should not have any warning of speed cameras. So strongly in fact that they took the issue to the High Court yesterday.

The result was that police forces can now apply to the Secretary of State for permission to hide fixed cameras. Previously only mobile camera units could be used covertly.

Assistant Director of Transport 2000 Vicky Cann commented, "This sends drivers the message that just because you can’t see a camera, that doesn’t mean that there isn’t one. This message should encourage drivers across the road network to stick within the speed limits, thereby reducing the death toll on our roads"

Links: www.transport2000.org.uk www.slower-speeds.org.uk Camera Detectors Reviewed

[Don]

Captain.....CAPTAIN!

[JMGS4]

Time to get the chain saws, Landys with hooks, and back-hoes back into action methinks!!!
edited to add, thermite, trinitrotoluol, welding torches, bricklayers foam, spray cans, MOABs etc...............

>> Edited by JMGS4 on Friday 21st March 09:11

[Mad Man]

Tossers.

>> Edited by Mad Man on Friday 21st March 09:12

[aww999]

Perhaps I should re-register my car so that all NIP's go to

Mr R. Sout
197 Empy Aich Lane
Floorrit
etc

Tell me more about this expanding builders foam?

[grahambell]

Another pile of crap from a bunch of arseholes promoting the fallacy that anyone within the speed limit must be driving safely and that anyone exceeding it is the biggest danger to society.

How much longer before we see Tosspot 2000 advocating the return of men with red flags walking in front of cars?

If it happens I nominate members of Tosspot 2000 and suspect it wouldn't be long before I suffered a sudden involuntary spasm in my right leg...

[nubbin]

Go to www.slower-speeds.org.uk, and check out the "reality vs. mischief" thread, if you really want to get annoyed by a bunch of cosy, self righteous pricks....

[77-84]

Just go down a dump yard, grab an old sofa or two.

Pile up at foot of scamera, douse in flammable liquid and watch the scamera burn!

[JMGS4]

aww999 said:
Tell me more about this expanding builders foam?

Used for insulation, comes in a small tube/tin, shake very well, using the fine nozzle supplied, fit this to any opening and squirt. And it's also inflammable! so beware!
Not that I'd ever promote the awful crime of vandalism on a scamera by some vicious motorist, this is purely for information purposes for builders who are insulating!!!!

[rodsmith]

W*nkers 2000 more like!

[kevinday]

I have just sent the following Email to their spokesperson Vicky Cann:

ARE YOU MAD!!!

These cameras are supposed to be SAFETY cameras and as such are supposedly positioned in locations of high accident rates. If they are highly visible this alerts the motorist to the fact of the accident 'black spot'. I can only think of one reason to hide fixed cameras and that has nothing to do with safety, purely revenue.

I invite you to reply to me with the reasoning Transport 2000 used to justify hiding cameras on safety grounds.


I wonder if I get a reply!

[simon5480]

Don't you lot get it, Transport2000 is the government it was only a matter of time before they took themselves to court so that they could hide the cameras again, just like Blunket and his immigration policy that has just been reversed by the high court, at least he/they have been seen to do something to escape media pressure while knowing they were going to do F*** all about it.

The deal has been done the Police get more cameras so that they can remove traffic officers to other departments they can no longer fill and sod other kinds of traffic crime, it shows safety is the last thing on their minds, just look at the way they are manipulating the traffic statistics to reflect speed as the major cause. My prediction is the last thing they will do once they have enough revenue is sort the motorways so that we get slowed down to a near stop which is phase 2 of this operation to drive us of the road and on to crumbling public systems.

[Stig]

From slower-speeds.org

"The Slower Speeds Initiative was founded in March 1998 by the Children's Play Council, Cyclist's Touring Club, Environmental Transport Association, Pedestrians' Association, Pedestrians' Policy Group, Road Danger Reduction Forum, RoadPeace, Sustrans and Transport 2000"

Good to see that actual 'drivers' are getting their fair representation then - NOT.

[TVR5]

c*nts

[Pierscoe1]

>>Assistant Director of Transport 2000 Vicky Cann

hmm.. does anybody know where she and her minions live?? I think we need to divert on of those B52's with 70 tons of ordenance.... think there's one spare in gloucestershire(?) somewhere....

next time one pops up on a road I use regularly.. it's getting a dollop of thermite on it's head (scameras I mean, not the people, i think..)



disclaimer: I am obviously joking and would never do any kind of vandalism blah blah blah

[RSTurboPaul]

"Gillian Petty understands only too well the impact of a fatal crash. She lost her teenage son a few years ago in a crash where the oncoming vehicle was travelling at 80mph in a 40mph zone. She says the death of her son has changed her whole family permanently."

Well me. Is today 'state the obvious day'? Of course, her son would have been perfectly alright if the other driver had been doing 80 in a 30 zone... GRRRRR

[daydreamer]

Stealth tax no 3265 - every driver must have a radar detector in order to keep hold of licence. From being a supporter of some speed camera schemes a few months back, I'm almost joining detlaf and outlaw in some midnight felling of said devices.

I would like to say that all this anti motorist legislation is damaging the economy as a fair proportion of people that contribute significantly need to drive fairly large distances over a year.

Unfortunately though we will just roll over and take it again . Bugger!

[tvr_nut]

Transport 200o should not be allowed to influence thinking on car use - they are a consortium of bus operators after all. Hope some of their f###ing buses get nicked by the aforementioned spy cameras!

TVR_NUT

[Boosted LS1]

I really would like to see a paintball competition organised. Could be done on the move and the balls could be filled with something harmless but sticky. Using a paintball machine gun would be good or a squeezy bottle for the less well endowed. Say 50 points per fixed unit done on a weekly basis. 1000 points for a high level over head unit. Come on lads this could be fairly harmless but fun. Somebody on here must do paintball.

Don't in any way think I am suggesting we deface those safety camers's that were mentioned above.

[mybrainhurts]

"Gillian Petty understands only too well the impact of a fatal crash. She lost her teenage son a few years ago in a crash where the oncoming vehicle was travelling at 80mph in a 40mph zone."

If this is the one I think it is (must check), she conveniently fails to mention that the miscreant driver was blind drunk.

[mybrainhurts]

Oh, and......anybody notice who's President of Transport 2000?

None other than Mr Monty Python......Michael Palin.

Methinks he's spent too much time on a camel.

Finally got his bloody Spanish Inquisition, didn't he?Aargh.....!!