Permission to use CCTV footage

[_deano]

Here’s the scenario:

My car was damaged in the basement car park at work. A security guard saw the guy that did it and I think that he may have been caught on CCTV (no major damage, but there is a mark to my car). The guard made a note of it (time/day/location), but the guy is not admitting to it. I’ve asked to see the CCTV footage as my car was parked in the vision of it, but as the guy said that he would not give his permission for any footage of him on CCTV; security and facilities have told me that this can’t be used as proof and I can’t see it.

Is this true or is someone telling me a pack of lies? And if that is the case; what’s the point of CCTV?

Thanks
DJ

[russ35]

I had cause to request CCTV footage from Blackpool Council this time last year after a van reversed into me at the exit to a car park. The other party gave me his employers details not his. The employer then said that the vehicle was of the road. As soon as we mentioned CCTV somebody came forward and admitted using the vehicle when they shouldn't have.

I applied to the council via some forms on the website which was using 'The Data Protection Act'. A few days later a got a phone call saying that my request was being refused as the images do not constitute personnal data (as I was filling the forms in I was not confident it would work due to the wording) but they then went on to say that they had looked at the 'Freedom Of Information Act' and were happy to use that to search for what I required.

The bump itself was not caught on tape but you could see us walking between the cars. This was right at the top of the screen in the distant. When I collected the tape I was just asked to ensure that only people with a reason to see it did.

Not sure if that helps, but I would have a read of the 'Freedom Of Information Act'

Edited by russ35 on Monday 18th December 11:34

[mko9]

If the guy the security guards think did the deed claims it isn't him, then he has no authority to deny others to view that segment of tape. After all, it isn't him. If he denies you authorization to view the tape, he is de facto admitting it is him on the video.

[Marki]

_deano said:

but as the guy said that he would not give his permission for any footage of him on CCTV; security and facilities have told me that this can’t be used as proof and I can’t see it.

So what is the point of buggeringwell having CCTV

[BIG DUNC]

My car was hit in a fuel station, and the other car drove off. Similar damage, just a mark in the paint, nothing major, but still a mark made by some else being careless. I was at work , and my wife phone me ( all upset ). I phoned the garage, and the numpty just stated they were not allowed to give out CCTV.
After work, I drove straight to the garage and was lucky that the manager was there ( it was mid evening ). He explained that officialy he should not show me ( company policy ). However, he then asked me into his office, and we went through the CCTV, and saw the incident happen ( including reg number ). He would not give any copy of the CCTV to me ( against company policy, and he had done me favour by allowing me to look at it ). However, he would keep it for 28 days, and show it to iether the police or my insurance comapny if it was requested. Neither police or ins comp were interesed, so thats as far as it got.
Good luck

[M5Dave]

_deano said:

Here’s the scenario:

My car was damaged in the basement car park at work. A security guard saw the guy that did it and I think that he may have been caught on CCTV (no major damage, but there is a mark to my car). The guard made a note of it (time/day/location), but the guy is not admitting to it. I’ve asked to see the CCTV footage as my car was parked in the vision of it, but as the guy said that he would not give his permission for any footage of him on CCTV; security and facilities have told me that this can’t be used as proof and I can’t see it.

Is this true or is someone telling me a pack of lies? And if that is the case; what’s the point of CCTV?

Thanks
DJ

Did this person vandalise your car or did he crash into it and drive off. Either way this should be a matter for the Police, and they will have power to obtain and view the CCTV footage whether this guy likes it nor not.

[_deano]

he bumped into it with his poxy moped.
Will take this further and see how it goes. Thanks for all your help with this.

[jasandjules]

_deano said:

he bumped into it with his poxy moped.
Will take this further and see how it goes. Thanks for all your help with this.

Call the police.

Advise them what has happened, that he failed to stop, and that it appears to have been caught on CCTV... They may even take the time to go and look.....

[sparkythecat]

jasandjules said:

_deano said:

he bumped into it with his poxy moped.
Will take this further and see how it goes. Thanks for all your help with this.

Call the police.

Advise them what has happened, that he failed to stop, and that it appears to have been caught on CCTV... They may even take the time to go and look.....

If it happened on private property they won't be interested.

[streaky]

The company may have a policy on viewing CCTV images. If they do not conform to the advice issued by teh ICO in respect of CCTV they may fall foul of the Act and could be open to legal challenge by the "offender" if you view the images. CCTV images are covered by the DPA 1998, but circumstances and the application may differ by perspective - Steaky

[deva link]

russ35 said:

Not sure if that helps, but I would have a read of the 'Freedom Of Information Act'

FOI Act only applies to public bodies. It doesn't apply to private companies.

Just suggesting that an incident is on CCTV may be enough. At the end the day if the perp continues to deny it then there's not an awful lot you can do with normal CCTV evidence anyway - it's not normally admissible in court, for example.

Edited by deva link on Tuesday 19th December 09:36