Digital speedcams to be the norn,
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Developments in Gatso
LiveLink
Digital Gatso Cameras with ISDN links are soon to be flooding the roads in a new push to stop speeding.
Known as Livelink the main difference is that they will not run out of film - because it won't have any...... A quote from a London Policeman "One of our busiest cameras regularly records 400 offences in less than six hours." Then we have to reload and that may not be the same day, so we miss offenders.
Images of speeding bikers and drivers are sent down the phone line to a central police computer and the NIP can be sent out straight away. So there are no costs for film, or developing it. You don't need to employ anyone to load or unload the films.
The Highway Agency, which is responsible for the UK motorways and trunk road network, is firmly in favour of cameras. The Agency's own figures reveal that cameras in London cut fatal accidents by 70 percent and saved £20 million a year in accident costs after their introduction in 1992.
It is also possible that these systems will not have either the Radar or the Flash fitted, but will employ the use of inductive loops in the road and a Digital Camera capable of working in low light. This would render Radar detectors useless, and given the fact it is no longer an offence to own and use a Radar Detector the authorities may go this way as a matter of spite.
LiveLink
Digital Gatso Cameras with ISDN links are soon to be flooding the roads in a new push to stop speeding.
Known as Livelink the main difference is that they will not run out of film - because it won't have any...... A quote from a London Policeman "One of our busiest cameras regularly records 400 offences in less than six hours." Then we have to reload and that may not be the same day, so we miss offenders.
Images of speeding bikers and drivers are sent down the phone line to a central police computer and the NIP can be sent out straight away. So there are no costs for film, or developing it. You don't need to employ anyone to load or unload the films.
The Highway Agency, which is responsible for the UK motorways and trunk road network, is firmly in favour of cameras. The Agency's own figures reveal that cameras in London cut fatal accidents by 70 percent and saved £20 million a year in accident costs after their introduction in 1992.
It is also possible that these systems will not have either the Radar or the Flash fitted, but will employ the use of inductive loops in the road and a Digital Camera capable of working in low light. This would render Radar detectors useless, and given the fact it is no longer an offence to own and use a Radar Detector the authorities may go this way as a matter of spite.
Developments in Gatso
LiveLink
Digital Gatso Cameras with ISDN links are soon to be flooding the roads in a new push to stop speeding.
Known as Livelink the main difference is that they will not run out of film - because it won't have any...... A quote from a London Policeman "One of our busiest cameras regularly records 400 offences in less than six hours." Then we have to reload and that may not be the same day, so we miss offenders.
Images of speeding bikers and drivers are sent down the phone line to a central police computer and the NIP can be sent out straight away. So there are no costs for film, or developing it. You don't need to employ anyone to load or unload the films.
The Highway Agency, which is responsible for the UK motorways and trunk road network, is firmly in favour of cameras. The Agency's own figures reveal that cameras in London cut fatal accidents by 70 percent and saved £20 million a year in accident costs after their introduction in 1992.
It is also possible that these systems will not have either the Radar or the Flash fitted, but will employ the use of inductive loops in the road and a Digital Camera capable of working in low light. This would render Radar detectors useless, and given the fact it is no longer an offence to own and use a Radar Detector the authorities may go this way as a matter of spite.
only take 30 seconds to smoke one
Isn't / wasn't there a law about using digital photos as evidence - something about couldn't prove it hadn't been tampered with (continuity of evidence?). How do these digital highwaymen get around that then? Just curious as I'm sure it's not an issue but hadn't heard what rules had changed.
madcop said:
outlaw said:
only take 30 seconds to smoke one
But where would you get a Rizla big enough?
And would it have the same effect?
LoL
personal i dont smoke my self
should say dont smoke weed
chain smke fags
rather have a nice single malt
>> Edited by outlaw on Wednesday 2nd April 15:13
simon5480 said: well it is not about road safety is it, it is about saving money. we already see less patrol cars on the roads, Thames Valley does attend minor accidents any more but does check you have insurance, so bad driving is a bye word to the plods now unles it can make them money...
Thats actually not correct. No Police force will send a patrol to an accident where the road is not blocked, there are no allegations of bad driving by any party involved and there is no injury. The advice there is to deal with the incident by complying with the relevant legislation i.e. exchanging the necessary details. That is countrywide policy.
Any accident that has allegations of offences from a driver, road blocked or injury will be investigated by Police, including Thames Valley.
TJMurphy said: Isn't / wasn't there a law about using digital photos as evidence - something about couldn't prove it hadn't been tampered with (continuity of evidence?). How do these digital highwaymen get around that then? Just curious as I'm sure it's not an issue but hadn't heard what rules had changed.
They're certainly illegal on the EU mainland for exactly that reason.... Original film and negs ONLY!!!
TJMurphy said: Isn't / wasn't there a law about using digital photos as evidence - something about couldn't prove it hadn't been tampered with (continuity of evidence?). How do these digital highwaymen get around that then? Just curious as I'm sure it's not an issue but hadn't heard what rules had changed.
Unless they have changed the law this is still the case. A digital photography cannot be introduced as evidence since it is impossible to verify it has not been tampered.
There is plenty of metal in there (remember the cast iron block, drive lines etc.).
alunr said:
but will employ the use of inductive loops in the road
Often wondered if an elise - due to all that aluminium instead of steel would set off an inductive loop?
An "all" Alu also will generally trigger one depending on how the sensor was set up.
However I am intrigued that they say they will use inductive loops - given the inaccuracy of their measurements I wouldn't have thought that would stand up in court. Truvelo's use pizeo or fibre optic sensors which measure a fixed point - inductive loops are rather "random" in when they go off.
Might just be bad reporting?
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tonybav said:
Unless they have changed the law this is still the case. A digital photography cannot be introduced as evidence since it is impossible to verify it has not been tampered.
So how are they not tampering with those photos that have to be 'retouched' to change the contrast to bring out the registration plates of 'camera-proof' plates?
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