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nightflight

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814 posts

247 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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A mate reckons that if you change lanes on a motorway section monitored by specs, it won't pick you up for speeding. He says it's weakness with the software, in that it can only monitor you if you stay in the same lane for the full stretch.Any thoughts or theories ?

bob1179

14,139 posts

239 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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Interesting theory.

Though I'm certainly not going to test it out!

Anybody fancy volunteering?


Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

274 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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The weakness is not with the software, it's with the law. SPECS cameras are only type approved for operation within one lane, if you always switch lanes between any operating pair of SPECS cameras they will know you were speeding, but legally can do f' all about it.

BonzoGuinness

1,554 posts

244 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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Einion Yrth said:
The weakness is not with the software, it's with the law. SPECS cameras are only type approved for operation within one lane, if you always switch lanes between any operating pair of SPECS cameras they will know you were speeding, but legally can do f' all about it.


True, until they change the Type Approval (no doubt silently and without telling anyone).

streaky

19,311 posts

279 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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First flagged in national press in mid-October 2006 (IIRC), and admitted by the Home Office with some comment about lack of funding (again, IIRC). You won't find anything about it on SCS's website though! - Streaky

LongQ

13,864 posts

263 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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nightflight said:
A mate reckons that if you change lanes on a motorway section monitored by specs, it won't pick you up for speeding. He says it's weakness with the software, in that it can only monitor you if you stay in the same lane for the full stretch.Any thoughts or theories ?


Assuming you can work out which of the units are paired of course ... so that you know which lane to be in at which point.

puggit

49,821 posts

278 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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LongQ said:
nightflight said:
A mate reckons that if you change lanes on a motorway section monitored by specs, it won't pick you up for speeding. He says it's weakness with the software, in that it can only monitor you if you stay in the same lane for the full stretch.Any thoughts or theories ?


Assuming you can work out which of the units are paired of course ... so that you know which lane to be in at which point.
Yep - when this came out in the press I travelled through a section of Specs on the A1(M). There were 3 sets...

tigger1

8,477 posts

251 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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The software could do it, but I think it was an issue with timing to get type-approval through within some specified planned time limit, therefore it was decided to go with the single lane approval (1 pair of cameras per lane).

"Problem" is as stated, that if you have 4 consecutive cameras, you might link A+B, C+D; or you could link A+C, B+D.

Vaux

1,558 posts

246 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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M56 Weaver Viaduct roadworks.
First position - only one appears to be looking at lane 2 or 2/3?
Second position - two cameras, one on lane 1, one on lane 2
Third position - two cameras, one on lane 1, one on lane 2

So if I am in lane 1 entering the system, it can't measure my speed over the first section?

nightflight

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814 posts

247 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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Thanks to all. Very interesting.

mattyboy101

16,664 posts

248 months

Monday 8th January 2007
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BonzoGuinness said:
Einion Yrth said:
The weakness is not with the software, it's with the law. SPECS cameras are only type approved for operation within one lane, if you always switch lanes between any operating pair of SPECS cameras they will know you were speeding, but legally can do f' all about it.


True, until they change the Type Approval (no doubt silently and without telling anyone).


And presumably back date the legislation? Or am I being too cynical? scratchchin

elwe

192 posts

250 months

Tuesday 9th January 2007
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My understanding is that each stalk with 2 cameras on is only type approved for monitoring one lane. Therefore if there are two stalks 500m apart each one will only be monitoring one lane, say the right hand one, and by changing lane you would therefore only be seen once by the cameras.

However if there are 3 lanes and 3 stalks of camera's are sited at each of the points 500m apart each stalk will be monitoring one of the lanes and they can then mix and match and spot you in lane 1 at the first set of cameras and lane 3 500m later.