Oops - speed cameras dont like caravans!
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The same site contains this memorable quotation...
"Stuart I agree the (safety cameras) are a form of taxation, but it is, like the lottery a voluntary tax.That we can avoid paying by not speeding. Once again speeding is a serious crime that can and does result in loss of life for what? A few seconds gained, that is lost ten fold at the next set of lights. I propose a six month ban for the first offence two years for the second and a life ban for the third.Any voluntiers?"
I shan't rant, I shan't, I shan't...
Edited to add: A serious crime?? FFS!!
Edited again to add: You too can have your say here: http://ichuddersfield.icnetwork.co.uk/page.cfm?objectid=11622454&method=full&siteid=50060
>> Edited by SGirl on Thursday 3rd April 17:50
>> Edited by SGirl on Thursday 3rd April 17:52
"Stuart I agree the (safety cameras) are a form of taxation, but it is, like the lottery a voluntary tax.That we can avoid paying by not speeding. Once again speeding is a serious crime that can and does result in loss of life for what? A few seconds gained, that is lost ten fold at the next set of lights. I propose a six month ban for the first offence two years for the second and a life ban for the third.Any voluntiers?"
I shan't rant, I shan't, I shan't...
Edited to add: A serious crime?? FFS!!
Edited again to add: You too can have your say here: http://ichuddersfield.icnetwork.co.uk/page.cfm?objectid=11622454&method=full&siteid=50060
>> Edited by SGirl on Thursday 3rd April 17:50
>> Edited by SGirl on Thursday 3rd April 17:52
I admire your restraint! I posted...
Which was a heavily cut down version of what I wanted to say! Damn their thousand character limit...
Phil.
You really think sentences like that are fair for someone caught at 75mph?
I wasn't going to grace your post with a reply but I did in case anyone thinks people on here agree with you!
The government claim speed to be a factor in 30% of accidents. So straight away by focusing on speeders you ignore 70% of RTAs. If you look closely at the governments data you'll see that this 30% includes accidents that happen UNDER the speed limit! You will also see that collisions of joyriders are put down as speeding!
Once you take away the bits that are included to doctor the figures you end up with speed as a contributory factor in LESS THAN 10% of RTAs.
What we need is EDUCATION not penalties.
We also need less people like you wailing about quick fixes (such as cameras) as if they're the saviours of humanity!
Which was a heavily cut down version of what I wanted to say! Damn their thousand character limit...
Allan's right. Doppler radar receives the same frequency shift from all the parts of the vehicle ( car & caravan ) as they are all travelling at the same speed. There will be a bit of a spread as the beam is angled ( cosine effect ) and the combination is long but the average signal gives a single speed reading.
This story is pure spin to explain away some gross error - and how many others have been convicted without complaint ?
This story is pure spin to explain away some gross error - and how many others have been convicted without complaint ?
Read an article in the local rag last night
Precising, it was about a woman who lives on an estate where the main road runs behind her house. She's worried about people speeding and killing kids etc.
She wanted speed humps on the road. She went on to say that there had been a load of accidents and speeding mainly in the car park also behind her house. Now how would speed humps reduce car park speeds? Why are kids playing on a main road. It's about time people realised that roads are dangerous places not playgrounds and kids should be kept in gardens and playgrounds until they can be safely left out.
If the speeding is in a car park I bet it's the MP brigade playing Boy Racers...
Another article was about another 46 cameras being installed to make the roads safer.
It then went on to say how the existing cameras had caught an increased number of speeders and accidents were up on the previous year by 20%. Now if they ar e catchuing more and accidents are increasing too, surely the statistics could prove that catch no one and the accident figures would drop....
It's not speeders that cause most accidents but idiot drivers in the wrong lane, travelling too close to your arse, jumping red lights, using hand held phones, not paying attention, etc etc
Pass the valium....
Rant officially over.
Precising, it was about a woman who lives on an estate where the main road runs behind her house. She's worried about people speeding and killing kids etc.
She wanted speed humps on the road. She went on to say that there had been a load of accidents and speeding mainly in the car park also behind her house. Now how would speed humps reduce car park speeds? Why are kids playing on a main road. It's about time people realised that roads are dangerous places not playgrounds and kids should be kept in gardens and playgrounds until they can be safely left out.
If the speeding is in a car park I bet it's the MP brigade playing Boy Racers...
Another article was about another 46 cameras being installed to make the roads safer.
It then went on to say how the existing cameras had caught an increased number of speeders and accidents were up on the previous year by 20%. Now if they ar e catchuing more and accidents are increasing too, surely the statistics could prove that catch no one and the accident figures would drop....
It's not speeders that cause most accidents but idiot drivers in the wrong lane, travelling too close to your arse, jumping red lights, using hand held phones, not paying attention, etc etc
Pass the valium....
Rant officially over.
IT's there now - say they check your submissions before allowing them to be posted. Here's my contribution:
Phil - are you telling us that you NEVER exceed the posted speed limit. I find that very hard to believe (unless you do not use a car/motorbike of course).
It has been reported by Transport for London (TRL) that various speed warning devices are more effective than Gatsos/fines/points. This is because drivers are treated like adults and warned of their errors, allowing them to correct these errors (i.e. slow down). The current system and the changes proposed by you only serve to anger the majority.
Trefor/.
Phil - are you telling us that you NEVER exceed the posted speed limit. I find that very hard to believe (unless you do not use a car/motorbike of course).
It has been reported by Transport for London (TRL) that various speed warning devices are more effective than Gatsos/fines/points. This is because drivers are treated like adults and warned of their errors, allowing them to correct these errors (i.e. slow down). The current system and the changes proposed by you only serve to anger the majority.
Trefor/.
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