R.I.P NSL
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DennisTheMenace

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15,605 posts

289 months

Friday 4th April 2003
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Just been out to a job in Yeovil and then to an installation in Chard i decided to take the A30 Chard leaving Yeovil i expect to hit an NSL , Not now 40 limit all the way to West Coker then down to 30 through the village thats ok i thought its NSL between here and East Chinnock .....Nope Fcukin 40 again luckily after East Chinnock to Crewekerne is still NSL but for how long ? right onwards to Chard from Crewekerne NSL to roundham then 40 through the village then back to NSL then get near the windwhistle pub it goes to a f@ckin 50 limit ! its a wide stright bit of road why 50 ? the only answer i can think of for the demise of the Nat speed limit is so they can shove a few more cnuts in vans to hide and get money off the motorist just saying saftey camera partnership makes me want to driver education is needed not drop speed limits soon we have to weld the gearbox in cars into 1st gear so we dont go fast enough to kill the flys (Sod the children think of all those innocent flys killed each year on britains roads)

and while im in a shitty mood A30 from blackdown hills to honiton has been reduced to 50 ! why? hide a van up a side road and watch the money come rolling in for all these corupt w@nkers thet run these speed scamera scams

thanks for reading
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pebbledash

795 posts

287 months

Friday 4th April 2003
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Did Blandford to columpton via the A30 same story... Bah Humbug...............

boosted ls1

21,200 posts

281 months

Friday 4th April 2003
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I read that we should all watch out for notices posted onto lamp posts and if found put in a protest to the council who apparantly are hopeless when it comes to protests, cos they rarely get them.

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

283 months

Friday 4th April 2003
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boosted ls1 said: I read that we should all watch out for notices posted onto lamp posts and if found put in a protest to the council who apparantly are hopeless when it comes to protests, cos they rarely get them.


Fhell talk about coincidances......

Have just this day been to the local council office (tayport)about JUST this.
One of the roads is to have the 30 limit extended past a entrance to a new estate. OK no probs with that as the road at that point has a blind summit.
BUT the notice (on the lamppost) clearly states that the drawings are on view in the local office (tayport)so took a trip down there and surprise surprise No they are not and you have to go to Cupar ('bout 10/12 miles) on the right day, to see 'em.

Now you've got me worried, yes there is a problem with motorists not driving to the road layout in places (reduced vis due to long bends)but other parts of the road are excellent

What's the betting a blanket 40/50 limit is in the offing? Mojo.

planetdave

9,921 posts

274 months

Friday 4th April 2003
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Same in mancland-mysterious disapearance of NSL for no good reason. Kill your MP now for not upholding basic liberties. All the roads reduced in these parts have no safety problems WTF. Walking compulsory next

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

292 months

Sunday 6th April 2003
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..yep, and my fave road has been knobbled in various places with 40mph all over the shop. Not amused. Soon I'll have to start riding my cruiser like its, errr, a cruiser. Instead of what it is now, which is a sportsbike that looks like a cruiser.

RichardR

2,903 posts

289 months

Monday 7th April 2003
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There's a short straight stretch of road, about 1 - 1.5 miles, between Tilford and Churt in Surrey that used to be a 50 limit, but a couple of years ago it mysteriously became a 30.

Along most of this long straight there are just a few big houses set back from the road, and I can't help wonder which one the local councillor, MP etc. lives in!

meldrewlives

121 posts

273 months

Monday 7th April 2003
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There's an even straighter stretch from Tilford to Frensham which used to be NSL and is now 40. There are almost no houses on the road.

This plus the nonsensical fcuking around in Tilford reducing two bridges to one controlled by traffic lights (in order to create a cycle lane - ye gods) and the introduction of chicanes and speed humps in e.g. Thursley makes it pretty clear that the local bureaucrats have got bugger all else to do with their time except persecute drivers.

Perhaps if the people responsible were sacked we wouldn't have 20% increases in our Council Tax!

RichardR

2,903 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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I guess the local councillor doesn't like having his Sunday afternoon cricket on the green disturbed by the cars racing down the hill!

I assumed that the closure of the bridge was structurally related, but creation of a cycle lane would seem like a suitably sh1t reason, so that's probably it.

Where we live now, we had a whole rash of new roundabouts and traffic calming appear; Five new mini-roundabouts have been built between Wokingham and Barkham (3 of them in a half-mile stretch) and in Arborfield they went through a frenzy of building, digging up and rebuilding (in a minutely different place) a set a humps on a half-mile road with a school on it. These are completely redundant at busy school times as the road's choked with Mums dropping of their kids and performing frightening manoeuvers and parking operations.

CarZee

13,382 posts

288 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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I hacked right across Surrey using back routes a couple of weeks back and hardly saw an NSL. Still, keep an eye out for the Talivans and any *real* hazards and ingore the damned limits and press on.

A million nimbys with a million pieces of metal and some red, white and black paint.... tossers.. The more these clowns do this and bring speed limits into disrepute, the more they'll be ignored and the more accidents there'll be. simple..

Just give it time for some dead morons to filter thru to the stats and within a couple of years we'll be back to NSLs.

>> Edited by CarZee (moderator) on Tuesday 8th April 10:58

CarZee

13,382 posts

288 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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Also, has it occured to anyone that these daft linits are imposed primarily because of the way some bikers tear up all the backroads at weekends like there's a pirahna in their shorts?

Yes Den - you know what I'm talking about, mate

With few exceptions, bikers are really diving in my estimation at the moment. Could they be spoiling it for the rest of us?

AJLintern

4,332 posts

284 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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On bright sunday afternoons there are millions of bikers around, but very few sports cars in comparison. I think a lot of them are prats (PH bikers accepted of course ) spoiling it for the rest of us The noise they make also irritates people and makes them think they are going faster than they actually are. It's because of the macho image/cheap performance that a bike gives that has made them so popular with a lot of idiots which is giving the 'speed kills' bunch plenty of ammo...

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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AJLintern said: On bright sunday afternoons there are millions of bikers around, but very few sports cars in comparison. I think a lot of them are prats (PH bikers accepted of course ) spoiling it for the rest of us The noise they make also irritates people and makes them think they are going faster than they actually are. It's because of the macho image/cheap performance that a bike gives that has made them so popular with a lot of idiots which is giving the 'speed kills' bunch plenty of ammo...



Sorry, as a car and bike fanatic, I don't agree with a word of this. It is true that there are good bikers and bad bikers, we are human beings and not a strange sub-species. In general though I guarantee that bikers are far better trained, far more alert and far more technically skilled than your average car driver.

Bikers aren't making things worse for car drivers. Things are being made worse for everybody by people who would rather see all of us denied freedom of movement, forced off the road and made dependent upon them.

granville

18,764 posts

282 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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I tend to concur with this view.

Because bikers are commonly observed hunting in packs, they assume the same 'threat to society' of any other 'antisocial' gathering and rightly or wrongly, this gets peoples' backs up. 'Society' is therefore more likely to 'do something about it.'

The 'odd,' single sports car, thrapping through leafy hamlet or Little Cretinbury, is relatively inconsequential by comparison.

Stealth is the key. Why else would a traffic cop positively encourage rampant highway stallionism very early of a Sunday morn if not in tacit appreciation of intelligent 'there's a time and a place for that, Sir' policing?

P.S. Did anyone else witness the simply incredible pony tailed exploits of the boy Segal in 'Out For Justice' on C5 last night? Absolute gash: I loved every second of it.

RichardR

2,903 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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derestrictor said:P.S. Did anyone else witness the simply incredible pony tailed exploits of the boy Segal in 'Out For Justice' on C5 last night? Absolute gash: I loved every second of it.
I was channel hopping and saw about 5 minutes of it where he was beating the living shit out of some guy, who appeared to have fallen face first into a bucket of red paint, before stabbing him in the forehead with some handy sharp object and then shooting him for good measure!

granville

18,764 posts

282 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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RichardR said:

derestrictor said:P.S. Did anyone else witness the simply incredible pony tailed exploits of the boy Segal in 'Out For Justice' on C5 last night? Absolute gash: I loved every second of it.
I was channel hopping and saw about 5 minutes of it where he was beating the living shit out of some guy, who appeared to have fallen face first into a bucket of red paint, before stabbing him in the forehead with some handy sharp object and then shooting him for good measure!


Precisely: you can keep your Larry Olivier in 'Lear' with such thespianic antics abroad.

I particularly love the over sentimental street braggado of the big city portrayal of the semi-cooperation between Segal's quasi-mafia lifestyle links, the real scuzz balls who you just demand that he 'takes out' with the nearest baseball bat, pick axe or well-proportioned length of sauerkraut, and the police for whom he officially works but ultimately has precious little respect for...

Ecky thump!

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

292 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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I have to admit that a lot of bikers are complete idiots - make alot of noise, but are pathetic riders. Oooh look at me, on my race rep, with race rep leathers... whereas I just get on with the task of getting past them.

But the real cause of problems are the sort of people who think 40mph is a bit risky, who hold up scores of irrate motorists who wish to drive sensibly at the speed limit.

Said motorists then do overtakes that they wouldn't normally contemplate out of sheer frustration - eg through a village, or too near to corners. Then we have accidents occuring, and "speed kills" is heard...

So they reduce the limit, and the slowbies (I made that up!!) go even slower.

C

tvrslag

1,198 posts

276 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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On a related subject have any of you guys read the Killing urban speed article in Autocar this week (9/04/03). Although I agree with low urban limits (30mph and such like), why are they placing the onus TOTALLY on the car driver to avoid the accident?
Nowhere in the Autocar investigation does it say out of the pedestrian injuries who was at fault, the implication there being the car driver was. When are they going to educate kids as to road safety? One ad with a couple of hedghogs (those well renown road safety experts)as opposed to all the TV and radio ads urging motorists to slow down, appears a bit one sided to me. But again I hate to say it and I apologise to anybody who has suffered a loss through a car accident but surely if all of the money that was being pumped into " the slower and safer" car speeds message and efforts, was pumped into the NHS and research we would save far more lives.
AS for the dissapearance of the NSL, its happening all over Northamptonshire and Warwickshire as well.
Since fun appears to have been outlawed in this country We need to see the return of the monster raving looney party, God bless Lord Sutch at least they couldn't have done a worse job than the current bunch of muppets we have.

DennisTheMenace

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15,605 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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CarZee said:

Yes Den - you know what I'm talking about, mate




ME ?



RichardR

2,903 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th April 2003
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hertsbiker said: I have to admit that a lot of bikers are complete idiots - make alot of noise, but are pathetic riders. Oooh look at me, on my race rep, with race rep leathers... whereas I just get on with the task of getting past them.

But the real cause of problems are the sort of people who think 40mph is a bit risky, who hold up scores of irrate motorists who wish to drive sensibly at the speed limit.

Said motorists then do overtakes that they wouldn't normally contemplate out of sheer frustration - eg through a village, or too near to corners. Then we have accidents occuring, and "speed kills" is heard...

So they reduce the limit, and the slowbies (I made that up!!) go even slower.

C


Have you also noticed how those slowbies will flash you angrily if you have the audacity to overtake them on that clear straight stretch of road they're crawling along!