battery scooters - where can you ride?

[bryan35]

I'm talking about the scooters where you have one foot on a plate and push with the other foot pushing, but the motorised battery version.
Looks quite good if your train station is 2 miles from your house, and I did actually try one a few years back and they do put a smile on your face - quite nippy.

Question is, where can you actually ride it?
On the path?, in a paved pedestrian area?. Want to stay within the law of course.

top speed of (I think) 12MPH, and they really 'Zap' about, if you see what I mean.

[herewego]

bryan35 said:

I'm talking about the scooters where you have one foot on a plate and push with the other foot pushing, but the motorised battery version.
Looks quite good if your train station is 2 miles from your house, and I did actually try one a few years back and they do put a smile on your face - quite nippy.

Question is, where can you actually ride it?
On the path?, in a paved pedestrian area?. Want to stay within the law of course.

top speed of (I think) 12MPH, and they really 'Zap' about, if you see what I mean.

You can ride it to your front gate and back.

[r5gttgaz]

herewego said:

bryan35 said:

I'm talking about the scooters where you have one foot on a plate and push with the other foot pushing, but the motorised battery version.
Looks quite good if your train station is 2 miles from your house, and I did actually try one a few years back and they do put a smile on your face - quite nippy.

Question is, where can you actually ride it?
On the path?, in a paved pedestrian area?. Want to stay within the law of course.

top speed of (I think) 12MPH, and they really 'Zap' about, if you see what I mean.

You can ride it to your front gate and back.

So why are the cripple wagons allowed on the paths? Or if you look round our village they just go on the road, to the pub and back.

[Einion Yrth]

r5gttgaz said:

So why are the cripple wagons allowed on the paths? Or if you look round our village they just go on the road, to the pub and back.

Blind eye currently being turned I believe.

[Don]

Einion Yrth said:

r5gttgaz said:

So why are the cripple wagons allowed on the paths? Or if you look round our village they just go on the road, to the pub and back.

Blind eye currently being turned I believe.

I thought they had indicators etc if they were to be used on the road?

[herewego]

There seem to be special rules for invalid carriages, sorry, cripple wagons, which limit them to 4 mph. You may be able to use one of those if you like or you may have to be mobility impaired.
www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1988/Uksi_19882268_en_1.htm

[tigger1]

herewego said:

There seem to be special rules for invalid carriages, sorry, cripple wagons, which limit them to 4 mph. You may be able to use one of those if you like or you may have to be mobility impaired.
www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1988/Uksi_19882268_en_1.htm

Majority do between 8 and 12 mph.

And yes, I hate seeing them on the roads, which is nearly as bad as "not" seeing them on the roads.

(Somebody stick up the Karmic picture though..please!)

[becca_viola]

Electric scooters (the ride-on, little old lady variety) are allowed on the pavement but only if doing 4mph or less. If it's doing above that than the person is either ignorant of or disregarding the law - it's the job of the person selling it to make sure the user knows.

[herewego]

tigger1 said:

herewego said:

There seem to be special rules for invalid carriages, sorry, cripple wagons, which limit them to 4 mph. You may be able to use one of those if you like or you may have to be mobility impaired.
www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1988/Uksi_19882268_en_1.htm

Majority do between 8 and 12 mph.

And yes, I hate seeing them on the roads, which is nearly as bad as "not" seeing them on the roads.

(Somebody stick up the Karmic picture though..please!)

They're mostly on the pavement and the LAs are installing as much pavement access as they can to maximise pavement use. Sometimes the pavements are not accessible and they use the roads. Tolerance is good in this case.

Edited by herewego on Friday 26th January 12:37

[fluffnik]

herewego said:

They're mostly on the pavement and the LAs are installing as much pavement access as they can to maximise pavement use. Sometimes the pavements are not accessible and they use the roads. Tolerance is good in this case.

Tolerance is good, deregulation would be better.

You can get what are effectively manual wheelchairs with servo assisted wheels - hub motors controlled via the push-rings to amplify the effort applied by the user - which, in the rest of the world, will allow the user to push themselves just as fast as they could in a manual chair and to maintain that speed even on moderate upgrades.

The UK version resists being pushed at more than 4mph even though a manual chair in the hands of a moderately fit user will cruise at ~8mph on the flat.

More assinine law obsessed with meaningless numbers rather than good sense, justice or even faintly competent civic administration.

We need to lose most of the law and the jobsworth parasites who impose it.

"I have a little list, they never will be missed."

[ridds]

What about battery bicycles? Also if they are legal then why would a little battery scooter with lights etc not be?

Surely the scooter is also self propeled, just because it's not got a pedal and a crank does that deem it void?

The sooner the Government allow these things the better in my eyes.

IMHO Train use etc would increase due to people being able to fit these small scooters on board etc.

[herewego]

I think electrically assisted bicycles are legal provided they are pedalled, not self propelled. However they are for road use only.
I assume you are thinking that powered scooters could be used on the pavement rather than the road. Since it’s not legal to ride a bike on the pavement, electric or otherwise, it’s not going to be legal for powered scooters either. You could argue that provided scooter riders behave sensibly and give way at all times to pedestrians then it could be viable, but we know that the ones who won’t behave would spoil it for the rest.