Baby left in car
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Some stupid woman left her baby in the car this afternoon in a supermarket carpark. Whats the law with regard to people doing this?
Should i have just phoned the cops on 999 or???
She came out while i was stood a short distance away, had at least 4 bags worth of shopping with her. Was a really sunny day as well.
Thoughts? Apart from the fact that she needs a good slap.
Cheers Paddy
Should i have just phoned the cops on 999 or???
She came out while i was stood a short distance away, had at least 4 bags worth of shopping with her. Was a really sunny day as well.
Thoughts? Apart from the fact that she needs a good slap.
Cheers Paddy
paddy27 said:
Some stupid woman left her baby in the car this afternoon in a supermarket carpark. Whats the law with regard to people doing this?
Should i have just phoned the cops on 999 or???
She came out while i was stood a short distance away, had at least 4 bags worth of shopping with her. Was a really sunny day as well.
Thoughts? Apart from the fact that she needs a good slap.
Cheers Paddy
I wouldn't leave a dog in a parked car. Mind you, I wouldn't push a baby or a dog around a supermarket. Draw your own conclusions - Streaky Should i have just phoned the cops on 999 or???
She came out while i was stood a short distance away, had at least 4 bags worth of shopping with her. Was a really sunny day as well.
Thoughts? Apart from the fact that she needs a good slap.
Cheers Paddy
From what you typed I can't tell if you know all of the facts.
Perhaps she put the baby in the car and went back for the shopping bags?
Did you see her leave the baby in the car?
How long was she away?
Did you stay there the whole time watching the baby and timing her?
Or did you just see a baby in a car for a few minutes then see a woman appear with four shopping bags?
I'm no expert on babies but if you're saying five minutes is too long to leave a baby unattended, how do women take a dump when they have a kid around?
Perhaps she put the baby in the car and went back for the shopping bags?
Did you see her leave the baby in the car?
How long was she away?
Did you stay there the whole time watching the baby and timing her?
Or did you just see a baby in a car for a few minutes then see a woman appear with four shopping bags?
I'm no expert on babies but if you're saying five minutes is too long to leave a baby unattended, how do women take a dump when they have a kid around?
Some idiot did this outside my house a couple of years ago, in winter. It was 2c according to my cars thermometer, the baby was in the car with no blankets on. So I sat and watched for 5mins, then rang the police who turned up in about 5mins. They used a PA on their car and the parent came out after a few mins (so nigh on 15mins outside, uncovered in a cold car) They gave them a telling off, but they just went back into the house and left the baby. I stopped the policeman and asked him for his number. He asked why, I told him i was going inside to call his boss and get him sacked. I reminded him of the temperature, the fact the baby was just in a babygrow thing and that the parents appeared not to be taking any effort to protect the baby and that I thought it was child cruelty that he had just sanctioned.
He went and retrieved the parent and made him take the baby inside.
As they say now, my piss was boiling
He went and retrieved the parent and made him take the baby inside.
As they say now, my piss was boiling
streaky said:
paddy27 said:
Some stupid woman left her baby in the car this afternoon in a supermarket carpark. Whats the law with regard to people doing this?
Should i have just phoned the cops on 999 or???
She came out while i was stood a short distance away, had at least 4 bags worth of shopping with her. Was a really sunny day as well.
Thoughts? Apart from the fact that she needs a good slap.
Cheers Paddy
I wouldn't leave a dog in a parked car. Mind you, I wouldn't push a baby or a dog around a supermarket. Draw your own conclusions - Streaky Should i have just phoned the cops on 999 or???
She came out while i was stood a short distance away, had at least 4 bags worth of shopping with her. Was a really sunny day as well.
Thoughts? Apart from the fact that she needs a good slap.
Cheers Paddy
Dogs stay at home whilst we shop .. as does the cat (though I do yank the Mad One out by scruff of his collar
- with a lot of catterwauling - especially when I pay for the stuff with his trusty bits of plastic 
) Kittens? If a long shop.. I usually get the oldest ones to look after the youngest ones (und get a load of ear ache when I get back as littlest ones "challenge authority of the twins
" Youngest kitten of the litter - likes a ride in the trolley .. und usually tells me to "go faster" und appreciates a good tilting cornering around the aisles
So .. no.. I do not leave kittens in car. Unless at garage paying for petrol in which case ist too much bother to remove und put back into car seats .. und depend on queue as to how long we there.
But back to this dopey Mama.... I would perhaps have said in friendly und polite und non-accusing tones that ist a "bit tricksy" heaving all that shopping around.. und discussed the demise of the supermarket creche (which the old Safeway used to have und which seem to have disappeared from these stores now) ... but still pointed out that in day und age of the car jacker und the idiots who hit und run cars in car parks (still
about that even though my lovely car ist now smiling again after "surgery"
- that it ist not wise to leave baby alone in car for longer than 5 minutes. I would then have told her what fun can be had by racing around the store with youngster gurgling in appreciation of "speediest matters und brill trolley handling"
From what I'm reading are or have many of you been parents?
There is are scenarios where it might be acceptable to leave a very small child asleep in their car seat imo.
You need to consider the following
> You know the sleep patterns of your child.
> Some children sleep really well when in their car seats.
> The child might not have slept the night before for some reason so once they do finally go to sleep it might be for some time
> Modern cars these days are relatively secure as shown by the increase of key then car thefts.
> Would it be better to wake a child up and have then screaming round the shop?
I have been known, when at the end of the tether, to strap one of my daughters into their car seat, take them for a 10/15minute drive until they drop off to sleep and then go home/stop at a friends house and park leaving said daughter asleep in a locked car, keeping an occassional eye on them to check for when they are awake.
Does that make me a "bad, irresponsible parent"? - you'll have top ask my teenage daughters that one....but I doubt it!!
There is are scenarios where it might be acceptable to leave a very small child asleep in their car seat imo.
You need to consider the following
> You know the sleep patterns of your child.
> Some children sleep really well when in their car seats.
> The child might not have slept the night before for some reason so once they do finally go to sleep it might be for some time
> Modern cars these days are relatively secure as shown by the increase of key then car thefts.
> Would it be better to wake a child up and have then screaming round the shop?
I have been known, when at the end of the tether, to strap one of my daughters into their car seat, take them for a 10/15minute drive until they drop off to sleep and then go home/stop at a friends house and park leaving said daughter asleep in a locked car, keeping an occassional eye on them to check for when they are awake.
Does that make me a "bad, irresponsible parent"? - you'll have top ask my teenage daughters that one....but I doubt it!!
marcellus said:
From what I'm reading are or have many of you been parents?
There is are scenarios where it might be acceptable to leave a very small child asleep in their car seat imo.
You need to consider the following
> You know the sleep patterns of your child.
> Some children sleep really well when in their car seats.
> The child might not have slept the night before for some reason so once they do finally go to sleep it might be for some time
> Modern cars these days are relatively secure as shown by the increase of key then car thefts.
> Would it be better to wake a child up and have then screaming round the shop?
I have been known, when at the end of the tether, to strap one of my daughters into their car seat, take them for a 10/15minute drive until they drop off to sleep and then go home/stop at a friends house and park leaving said daughter asleep in a locked car, keeping an occassional eye on them to check for when they are awake.
Does that make me a "bad, irresponsible parent"? - you'll have top ask my teenage daughters that one....but I doubt it!!
There is are scenarios where it might be acceptable to leave a very small child asleep in their car seat imo.
You need to consider the following
> You know the sleep patterns of your child.
> Some children sleep really well when in their car seats.
> The child might not have slept the night before for some reason so once they do finally go to sleep it might be for some time
> Modern cars these days are relatively secure as shown by the increase of key then car thefts.
> Would it be better to wake a child up and have then screaming round the shop?
I have been known, when at the end of the tether, to strap one of my daughters into their car seat, take them for a 10/15minute drive until they drop off to sleep and then go home/stop at a friends house and park leaving said daughter asleep in a locked car, keeping an occassional eye on them to check for when they are awake.
Does that make me a "bad, irresponsible parent"? - you'll have top ask my teenage daughters that one....but I doubt it!!
I'm with you marcellus. Sounds like there are a lot of people who are not parents passing judgment.
I don't know the detailed circumstances of the original post but I have often come back from trips with a child that has finally fallen asleep just as I arrived home. Said child has then been left in the car on the drive with myself or Mrs K1 checking the situation every 5 to 10 minutes. The car is locked and the child can not get out of the car seat restraints. Does this make me a bad parent?
black-k1 said:
marcellus said:
From what I'm reading are or have many of you been parents?
There is are scenarios where it might be acceptable to leave a very small child asleep in their car seat imo.
You need to consider the following
> You know the sleep patterns of your child.
> Some children sleep really well when in their car seats.
> The child might not have slept the night before for some reason so once they do finally go to sleep it might be for some time
> Modern cars these days are relatively secure as shown by the increase of key then car thefts.
> Would it be better to wake a child up and have then screaming round the shop?
I have been known, when at the end of the tether, to strap one of my daughters into their car seat, take them for a 10/15minute drive until they drop off to sleep and then go home/stop at a friends house and park leaving said daughter asleep in a locked car, keeping an occassional eye on them to check for when they are awake.
Does that make me a "bad, irresponsible parent"? - you'll have top ask my teenage daughters that one....but I doubt it!!
There is are scenarios where it might be acceptable to leave a very small child asleep in their car seat imo.
You need to consider the following
> You know the sleep patterns of your child.
> Some children sleep really well when in their car seats.
> The child might not have slept the night before for some reason so once they do finally go to sleep it might be for some time
> Modern cars these days are relatively secure as shown by the increase of key then car thefts.
> Would it be better to wake a child up and have then screaming round the shop?
I have been known, when at the end of the tether, to strap one of my daughters into their car seat, take them for a 10/15minute drive until they drop off to sleep and then go home/stop at a friends house and park leaving said daughter asleep in a locked car, keeping an occassional eye on them to check for when they are awake.
Does that make me a "bad, irresponsible parent"? - you'll have top ask my teenage daughters that one....but I doubt it!!
I'm with you marcellus. Sounds like there are a lot of people who are not parents passing judgment.
I don't know the detailed circumstances of the original post but I have often come back from trips with a child that has finally fallen asleep just as I arrived home. Said child has then been left in the car on the drive with myself or Mrs K1 checking the situation every 5 to 10 minutes. The car is locked and the child can not get out of the car seat restraints. Does this make me a bad parent?
Ja .. but 4 bags of shopping.. but then :scratchin: might have been "bulkies" like family pack of "Kitten Soft"
und washing machine stuff.. und a couple of large loaves.. plus disposable nappies ... Depend how long you will be away from baby too. 5 -10 minutes OK. Longer than this .. und chill set into car. I certainly would not leave in car in hot summer..for any time at all.. und am more inclined to have kitten with me or leave with my fairly responsible older kittens.
I know i didn't have the all facts. I still don't see a reason to leave a child in a car for any amount of time. She was gone long enough for a secruity gaurd to see the baby in the car, look around for the owner then walk to the store and get it annouced over the tannoy. The woman concerend was just leaving the store as it announced. So she hadn't just gone back for her bags.
Paddy
Paddy
My mum used to leave me in the pram outside shops back in the day. When I was 2 weeks old she left me outside Woolworths, did her shopping and drove all the way home (about 3 miles) without me. My dad asked her where I was, cue trip back down to woolies 
Of course this was back in the days when a lot of mothers left babies outside shops. Now of course every other person is a baby snatching pervert who will kill you, your baby and all your family according to the daily mail and the labour spin machine...
A woman left a baby in the car for a little while, so what? What business is it of yours? Was the baby in any danger, was it distressed? No, what harm has been done?
Of course this was back in the days when a lot of mothers left babies outside shops. Now of course every other person is a baby snatching pervert who will kill you, your baby and all your family according to the daily mail and the labour spin machine...
A woman left a baby in the car for a little while, so what? What business is it of yours? Was the baby in any danger, was it distressed? No, what harm has been done?
The baby was well wrapped up, but on a sunny day like Friday the car would well warm enough already sat in the sun. I know mine was.
If she she does it in the winter how do you know she does not do it in the summer? The in car temps in the summer on a hat car can exceed 100 Farenheit. If anyone puts their child in danger then it is everyones business. IMHO i think it is wrong.
Paddy
edited for bad spelling
If she she does it in the winter how do you know she does not do it in the summer? The in car temps in the summer on a hat car can exceed 100 Farenheit. If anyone puts their child in danger then it is everyones business. IMHO i think it is wrong.
Paddy
edited for bad spelling
Edited by paddy27 on Saturday 3rd February 22:11
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