RE: Petition calls for scrapping of scameras
Friday 9th February 2007
Ditch speed cameras: petitionOn the same day that Department for Transport announced an increase in road deaths, road safety campaign Safe Speed has launched a petition on the 10 Downing Street site to scrap speed cameras in the interests of road safety (see link below).
Petition calls for scrapping of scameras
Safety group campaigns to ditch speed cameras
Ditch speed cameras: petition
Safe Speed claimed it presents "a cast iron case" against speed cameras:
- The benefit claimed for speed cameras has been overrated by 400 per cent due to neglect of regression to the mean effect at speed camera sites.
- The claimed speed / accident relationship based on average speeds is basically complete drivel.
- Only five per cent of injury crashes involve any vehicle exceeding speed limits, including crashes caused by rogue drivers, nutters racing on the highway, reckless drivers, stolen cars, emergency services drivers and drunk drivers.
- Speed cameras come with at least 30 detrimental side effects, none of which have been officially studied.
- Vehicle activated signs are more effective than speed cameras at reducing vehicle speeds in dangerous locations.
- We earned ourselves the safest roads in the world long before we had speed cameras, but since we've had speed cameras we have been losing our world lead.
- Road deaths are not falling as expected.
- Road crash hospitalisations haven't fallen for a decade according to the British Medical Journal.
- If it weren't for a sustained reduction in pedestrian activity, the road safety results would be considerably worse.
The Statistics Commission has warned Department for Transport that their 'serious injury' statistics are not a reliable series - and that's the only category showing an improvement.
Campaign founder Paul Smith said: "I urge everyone to sign this petition for one reason and for one reason only - because speed cameras are detrimental to road safety. A proper examination of the case leaves absolutely no doubt that speed cameras have made road safety worse."
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Discussion
marandlau said:
can't really see the goverment agreeing to this and oosing out on billions of pounds???
jaker said:
I dont think the cameras actually make much money anyway!
They don't. They cost millions in publicity to shore up, but more importantly to us, they cost lives.
Let's make absolutely certain that the government knows they will cost votes too.
Sign the petition: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/scrapcam
aston67 said:
any legal pressure is better than no pressure at all on politicians
Agreed, I think enough people are against speed cameras that something could be done about the whole thing if we were more organised - the problem is fragmented groups of people with the same opinions have little effect on the government even though they should if democracy actually worked in the UK. Well known petitions like this that everyone knows about and signs and organised road blockades like the fuel ones etc etc are the way forward.
I can’t believe there's nobody in the government that would agree with this petition!! If the conservatives said they're ditch speed cameras and saved money by not employing so many people doing useless jobs for the government then you'd think they'd get in and stay in since people would see a point in actually bothering to vote. I can’t believe the hippy/green/10mph crowd are anywhere near as large as the number of p****d off motorists...
Edited by rabw on Friday 9th February 12:46
Nice idea, but I think this petition will deffo fall on deaf ears.
10 Million of us could sign it. The labour money making machine will still continue to say they improve safety.
No doubt they'll annouce another survey that suggests that 89% of the UK population are in favour of more speed cameras.
Edit. Signed anyway
10 Million of us could sign it. The labour money making machine will still continue to say they improve safety.
No doubt they'll annouce another survey that suggests that 89% of the UK population are in favour of more speed cameras.
Edit. Signed anyway
Edited by wab172uk on Friday 9th February 12:37
nobleguy said:
Is there a petition to allow the immediate ousting of idiot politicians who spout utter crap (except Boris of course)? The site would crash under the volume methinks..
If we did allow the immediate ousting of idiot politicians who spout utter crap, this would within minutes render the entire House
But, mind you, that would do all of us a monumental favour!
Julian
"Nice idea, but I think this petition will deffo fall on deaf ears.
10 Million of us could sign it. The labour money making machine will still continue to say they improve safety.
No doubt they'll annouce another survey that suggests that 89% of the UK population are in favour of more speed cameras. "
not sure about the above
politicians are just cowards and they only act when they see an opportunity or they are pushed (by the voters)
the green brigade shouts the most but motorists are just being british too much, with a stiff upper lip while money is taken out of your wallet
it is indeed time to regroup, re-organize in a logical and legal way all the motorists in the same way the tree huggers have done
there are just causes for the motorists and those must be addressed
the scandal of the parking tax hike at Richmond is there to be see by all of us if nothing is done
car ownership is part of our freedom of choice - as such must be respected IMHO
10 Million of us could sign it. The labour money making machine will still continue to say they improve safety.
No doubt they'll annouce another survey that suggests that 89% of the UK population are in favour of more speed cameras. "
not sure about the above
politicians are just cowards and they only act when they see an opportunity or they are pushed (by the voters)
the green brigade shouts the most but motorists are just being british too much, with a stiff upper lip while money is taken out of your wallet
it is indeed time to regroup, re-organize in a logical and legal way all the motorists in the same way the tree huggers have done
there are just causes for the motorists and those must be addressed
the scandal of the parking tax hike at Richmond is there to be see by all of us if nothing is done
car ownership is part of our freedom of choice - as such must be respected IMHO
Edited by aston67 on Friday 9th February 12:41
Forgive me posting this in this particular discussion, but I think as many people should get on the petition list as possible to prevent this from happennig;
There are only 15 days left to register your objection to the 'Pay as you go' road tax which closes to petitions on the 20th February 2007. The petition is on the 10 Downing St website but as so often, no one said anything about it. Therefore at this time only about 670,000 people have signed it but 750,000 signatures are required to stop HM Government introducing it.
Once you've given your details HM Government will send you an email with a link in it. Once you click on that link, you'll have signed the petition.
The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it. The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver. A non working mother who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit in time before long you can probably expect a Notice of Intended Prosecution with your
monthly bill.
Please pass this on to as many like-minded friends as posible. <http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/
There are only 15 days left to register your objection to the 'Pay as you go' road tax which closes to petitions on the 20th February 2007. The petition is on the 10 Downing St website but as so often, no one said anything about it. Therefore at this time only about 670,000 people have signed it but 750,000 signatures are required to stop HM Government introducing it.
Once you've given your details HM Government will send you an email with a link in it. Once you click on that link, you'll have signed the petition.
The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it. The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver. A non working mother who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit in time before long you can probably expect a Notice of Intended Prosecution with your
monthly bill.
Please pass this on to as many like-minded friends as posible. <http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/
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