How many law abiding motorists?
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Are there any statistics that show what percentage of motorists are totally law abiding? By law abiding I mean those drivers who never exceed a speed limit, ever. I realise that without monitoring every car all the time (thankfully not yet practical) it is not possible to gather accurate information, but does anyone have an idea? Vonhosen might know....
as the governemnt measure become ever more draconian, then the number can only drop. The obession with speed has left people with points when they have held a previously clean licence for decades. Ok, you could argue they were not law abiding, as they broke the speed limit. But hwere they driving dnagerously, or being caught for something that everyone does to varying degrees? If road pricing comes in, then the number of people driving unregistered or uninsured will rise too
You do get a fair few that increase the danger by rigidly sticking to the speed limit. Like the chap I saw the other day that was slowly overtaking at 0.0001 mph on a dual carriageway, just where a sliproad joins causing much jostling as a joining vehicle tried to merge with the traffic in the inside lane.
He seemed totally oblivious to the chaos that he was causing - he either should have slowed down and let someone stuck in the inside lane out or speed up a couple of mph to help the bunch of traffic to disperse. He was legal, of course, but then speed limits override common sense these days - as do scammers.
He seemed totally oblivious to the chaos that he was causing - he either should have slowed down and let someone stuck in the inside lane out or speed up a couple of mph to help the bunch of traffic to disperse. He was legal, of course, but then speed limits override common sense these days - as do scammers.
Plotloss said:
Never exceeded a speed limit?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
Me, I got driven home.
My instructor advised that driving when feeling extremes (such as elation or depression), was not good for the process.
Edited by vonhosen on Monday 12th February 22:59
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
Never exceeded a speed limit?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
Me, got driven home.
My instructor advised that driving when feeling extremes (such as elation or depression), was not good for the process.
And when you got home?
Being a class one you've exceeded the speed limit, so you're firmly in the 0%
Plotloss said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
Never exceeded a speed limit?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
Me, got driven home.
My instructor advised that driving when feeling extremes (such as elation or depression), was not good for the process.
And when you got home?
Being a class one you've exceeded the speed limit, so you're firmly in the 0%
I didn't drive anymore that day after getting home.
I haven't said that I've never exceeded the limit though.
Where not using a legal exemption I attempt to adhere to limits.
The prosecution thresholds are such that you won't get prosecuted for the smallest margins over the limit. Where you disregard the limit or through a lack of observance exceed it by a larger margin, then you risk prosecution.
Edited by vonhosen on Monday 12th February 23:05
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
Never exceeded a speed limit?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
Me, got driven home.
My instructor advised that driving when feeling extremes (such as elation or depression), was not good for the process.
And when you got home?
Being a class one you've exceeded the speed limit, so you're firmly in the 0%
I didn't drive anymore that day after getting home.
I haven't said that I've never exceeded the limit though.
Where not using a legal exemption I attempt to adhere to limits.
The prosecution thresholds are such that you won't get prosecuted for the smallest margins over the limit. Where you disregard the limit or through a lack of observance exceeded by a larger margin you risk prosecution.
Actually .. Papa would not let me drive for 24 hours after passing test. He said he wanted me to get over all excitement first.
We did the same with our own kittens when they pass test. We even continued to supervise for a couple of days und followed
their "solos" at discreet distance for first couple of days too. Have we all exceeded speed limit..
..by normal margins. Have we driven at very high speeds?
on German A/bahn.. und on track days ... but we have always checked talivan timetables too 
Plotloss said:
Blimey, what sensible parents and instructors you all have.
Reckon I was doing 100mph within the hour.
Looking back, lucky and silly but still, the freedom of gaining a driving licence...
Reckon I was doing 100mph within the hour.
Looking back, lucky and silly but still, the freedom of gaining a driving licence...
Ach but Liebchen .. er I did learn und have part of test on A/bahn.
In them days .. (und
I am not that old .. eldest ist 20 in summer und I was not really that much older when I had him 
) .. but when I was 18 und took my test.. you had to drive at normal flow of traffic on a derestricted A/bahn. 
I think I gave the examiner a fair taste of how I thought a good driver drive on that kind of road. He then tested me on a 20 mph zone immediately afterwards .
I think he wanted to test how I felt speed.. after all that excitement! 
I also was not allowed to drive home from my test. My DI said that when he was a rookie, he had five accidents in one week and decided never again!
He did sugest that as I was driving my mother's car I should remember that they will probably take the car off me if I prang it within three weeks of passing my test! It took my 5....
Funny how youth always knows best?
Another friend (Italian) was FORCED to learn the roads of Italia on a moped and then a motorbike???? In London (shortly after starting to drive) he had two near misses on his bike and to my knowledge, has never had an accident and a clean licence to this day! Wonder why?
He did sugest that as I was driving my mother's car I should remember that they will probably take the car off me if I prang it within three weeks of passing my test! It took my 5....
Funny how youth always knows best?
Another friend (Italian) was FORCED to learn the roads of Italia on a moped and then a motorbike???? In London (shortly after starting to drive) he had two near misses on his bike and to my knowledge, has never had an accident and a clean licence to this day! Wonder why?
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
Never exceeded a speed limit?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
Me, got driven home.
My instructor advised that driving when feeling extremes (such as elation or depression), was not good for the process.
And when you got home?
Being a class one you've exceeded the speed limit, so you're firmly in the 0%
I didn't drive anymore that day after getting home.
I haven't said that I've never exceeded the limit though.
Where not using a legal exemption I attempt to adhere to limits.
The prosecution thresholds are such that you won't get prosecuted for the smallest margins over the limit. Where you disregard the limit or through a lack of observance exceed it by a larger margin, then you risk prosecution.
Edited by vonhosen on Monday 12th February 23:05
Great, so instead of posting all that you could have just agreed that you have, in fact, broken a speed limit or two in your time.
Why you feel the need to continuously posture like Judge Dredd is beyond me.
ukwill said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
Never exceeded a speed limit?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
Me, got driven home.
My instructor advised that driving when feeling extremes (such as elation or depression), was not good for the process.
And when you got home?
Being a class one you've exceeded the speed limit, so you're firmly in the 0%
I didn't drive anymore that day after getting home.
I haven't said that I've never exceeded the limit though.
Where not using a legal exemption I attempt to adhere to limits.
The prosecution thresholds are such that you won't get prosecuted for the smallest margins over the limit. Where you disregard the limit or through a lack of observance exceed it by a larger margin, then you risk prosecution.
Edited by vonhosen on Monday 12th February 23:05
Great, so instead of posting all that you could have just agreed that you have, in fact, broken a speed limit or two in your time.
Why you feel the need to continuously posture like Judge Dredd is beyond me.
I'm not Judge Dredd at all. Not even the prosecutor anymore, just a witness for the prosecution.
vonhosen said:
ukwill said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
Never exceeded a speed limit?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
Me, got driven home.
My instructor advised that driving when feeling extremes (such as elation or depression), was not good for the process.
And when you got home?
Being a class one you've exceeded the speed limit, so you're firmly in the 0%
I didn't drive anymore that day after getting home.
I haven't said that I've never exceeded the limit though.
Where not using a legal exemption I attempt to adhere to limits.
The prosecution thresholds are such that you won't get prosecuted for the smallest margins over the limit. Where you disregard the limit or through a lack of observance exceed it by a larger margin, then you risk prosecution.
Edited by vonhosen on Monday 12th February 23:05
Great, so instead of posting all that you could have just agreed that you have, in fact, broken a speed limit or two in your time.
Why you feel the need to continuously posture like Judge Dredd is beyond me.
I'm not Judge Dredd at all. Not even the prosecutor anymore, just a witness for the prosecution.
No, you don't sound like him at all. I don't know what I was thinking. Erronous behaviour exhibited by us humans, you'll have to bear with me, we're not a perfect species, unlike the inhabitants of your planet.
I broke the speed limit repeatedly DURING my test, I'm sure. Not by much.
I also was driven home, and did not drive for a couple of days.
I am highly sceptical of those who claim to never break speed limits - true enough you don't see them exceed 45 in a 60 but they never seem to notice those 30 limits, nor stick to them.
The mentality that advocates obedience to limits also internally advocates driving without care or attention in my experience. I have actually challenged relatives who've claimed to be purer than the driven snow, then driven to some event and repeatedly broken the speed limit in dangerous conditions. When I joked about it, the response is invariably "oh I know I speed in towns, but I never go fast"!
dave
I also was driven home, and did not drive for a couple of days.
I am highly sceptical of those who claim to never break speed limits - true enough you don't see them exceed 45 in a 60 but they never seem to notice those 30 limits, nor stick to them.
The mentality that advocates obedience to limits also internally advocates driving without care or attention in my experience. I have actually challenged relatives who've claimed to be purer than the driven snow, then driven to some event and repeatedly broken the speed limit in dangerous conditions. When I joked about it, the response is invariably "oh I know I speed in towns, but I never go fast"!
dave
ukwill said:
vonhosen said:
ukwill said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
vonhosen said:
Plotloss said:
Never exceeded a speed limit?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
0%
Whats the first thing you did when you passed your test?
Me, got driven home.
My instructor advised that driving when feeling extremes (such as elation or depression), was not good for the process.
And when you got home?
Being a class one you've exceeded the speed limit, so you're firmly in the 0%
I didn't drive anymore that day after getting home.
I haven't said that I've never exceeded the limit though.
Where not using a legal exemption I attempt to adhere to limits.
The prosecution thresholds are such that you won't get prosecuted for the smallest margins over the limit. Where you disregard the limit or through a lack of observance exceed it by a larger margin, then you risk prosecution.
Edited by vonhosen on Monday 12th February 23:05
Great, so instead of posting all that you could have just agreed that you have, in fact, broken a speed limit or two in your time.
Why you feel the need to continuously posture like Judge Dredd is beyond me.
I'm not Judge Dredd at all. Not even the prosecutor anymore, just a witness for the prosecution.
No, you don't sound like him at all. I don't know what I was thinking. Erronous behaviour exhibited by us humans, you'll have to bear with me, we're not a perfect species, unlike the inhabitants of your planet.
No I'm not perfect (as I have repeatedly said), just like every other person on my ('this') planet.
Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 13th February 00:05
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