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What rights do the Police have to join a motorway and then travel at roughly 95-100 mph when they are not on a call?
This morning whilst on the M11 south bound a Police Volvo joined the M11 from a sliproad just after the M25 junction and went past me like I was standing still, (I was on my bike doing a calculated 80 mph in a flow of cars & vans), everyone pulled over and let the Police Volvo speed past them, they had headlights flashing and the blues weren't on either. I knew that they were heading for the depo on the M11 just past the Loughton / Chigwell junction and they duly indicated and pulled into the depo junction a mile or so further down.
My question is, what gives them the right to waft down the M11 at roughly 95-100 mph when they are not on a call?
Taking the P
s big time me thinks 
. If the tables were turned someone would have been pulled over and given a good going over.
This morning whilst on the M11 south bound a Police Volvo joined the M11 from a sliproad just after the M25 junction and went past me like I was standing still, (I was on my bike doing a calculated 80 mph in a flow of cars & vans), everyone pulled over and let the Police Volvo speed past them, they had headlights flashing and the blues weren't on either. I knew that they were heading for the depo on the M11 just past the Loughton / Chigwell junction and they duly indicated and pulled into the depo junction a mile or so further down.
My question is, what gives them the right to waft down the M11 at roughly 95-100 mph when they are not on a call?
Taking the P
s big time me thinks . If the tables were turned someone would have been pulled over and given a good going over. Edited by Andy Oh on Wednesday 21st March 13:17
Andy Oh said:
I knew that they were heading for the depo on the M11 just past the Loughton / Chigwell junction
No, you assumed - and you assumed they weren't using their vehicle to help them perform their duties...hence the high speed.
Get over it, I'm sure you have never riden at 95mph and not been ticketed for it!
One rule for them another for the rest.....FFS...
I knew I would get replies like this from my question as you're probably all job anyway.......they make my pss boil when they are blatantly abusing their authority..........training my back side and as to they every right to blat along a very busy road at those speeds I can't quite believe that one I'm afraid.......please don't bother replying anymore as it's all so one sided when one asks this type of question.........
I knew I would get replies like this from my question as you're probably all job anyway.......they make my p
ss boil when they are blatantly abusing their authority..........training my back side and as to they every right to blat along a very busy road at those speeds I can't quite believe that one I'm afraid.......please don't bother replying anymore as it's all so one sided when one asks this type of question.........Andy Oh said:
One rule for them another for the rest.....FFS... most of you are all job anyway
I'm not, I work in the city in the private sector.
Of course the Police have different rules - how would they function otherwise - no power of arrest, no power to enter your home, no power to speed to you when you are being atacked in the street etc etc?
Just be glad VH is out teaching people how to drive at the moment.
There isn't one answer above from someone actually in the job. IT specialist, solicitor, plate salesman, sorry for missing somebody out.
If you want exemptions to apply to you then join up.
If you knew the answer you would get why ask the question in te first place, other than to be a wooden spoon wielding tfa.
yours
grumpy guts
If you want exemptions to apply to you then join up.
If you knew the answer you would get why ask the question in te first place, other than to be a wooden spoon wielding tfa.
yours
grumpy guts
Andy Oh said:
One rule for them another for the rest.....FFS...
I knew I would get replies like this from my question as you're probably all job anyway.......they make my pss boil when they are blatantly abusing their authority..........training my back side and as to they every right to blat along a very busy road at those speeds I can't quite believe that one I'm afraid.......please don't bother replying anymore as it's all so one sided when one asks this type of question.........
I knew I would get replies like this from my question as you're probably all job anyway.......they make my p
ss boil when they are blatantly abusing their authority..........training my back side and as to they every right to blat along a very busy road at those speeds I can't quite believe that one I'm afraid.......please don't bother replying anymore as it's all so one sided when one asks this type of question.........I'm not "job"
I never said that they were training, but you can't say for sure that there weren't so why rant on a forum about it?
You can't ask a question on a public forum, criticise the responses and then tell people NOT to reply. Doh! Well you can, but it's just silly etc
HTH
cpn jack spanner said:
It's really very simple, there are those police who think it's right to follow the posted limits and set a good example for the public...
...and there are those who believe the exact opposite.
...and there are those who believe the exact opposite.
... and there are those making progress to get ahead of a stolen vehicle.. to respond to a domestic .. to make their way to a strike in relation to a suspected criminality.. to make their way to an urgent briefing in relation to a job on the go.. as well as some that may or may not be as so nicely put taking the
The problem is you do not know. There are a whole host of reasons the vehicle could be speeding, some legit far fewer not. There is no legal requirement to use blue lights or sirens for any call. Its personal choice based on the nature of call, distance to be travelled etc. As for one rule etc. Yes it is one rule for you one for us. In many areas of the law. Last time I looked members of the public are not allowed to carry automatic weapons in public. The powers you have to arrest people are different. Its not an offence for you to stand and watch someone being beaten up and do nothing to intervene.
If the vehicle in question was a traffic vehicle they in general do not exceed the limit unless they are going somewhere as required by there role and they have to be there within a designated time as a operational requirement.
As has been nicely mentioned though. Those that feel its just a job that involves driving around getting your take away and being rude to people or beating them up please feel free to go to the home office website.. I'm sure you would make a cracking cop
vonhosen said:
gog said:
mr annie vxr said "its not an offence for you to stand and watch someone being beaten up and do nothing", implying that a Bib would be committing an offence for same, is that correct?
Not a criminal offence, but it could be under discipline regs.
VH... your forgetting about malfeasance in a public office ( I think thats what it was I'm no 'googling' away to find the correct one)... Can't remember the case but it related to an officer watching a chap being beaten up outside a nightclub and doing nothing to intervene.
mr_annie_vxr said:
If the vehicle in question was a traffic vehicle they in general do not exceed the limit unless they are going somewhere as required by there role and they have to be there within a designated time as a operational requirement.
I see plenty of police traffic cars along that stretch of the M11 as I commute into the city everyday on the road but I have very rarely seen a traffic car at those speeds, unless on a shout with all the bells & whistles in tow. There is a depo there and that's where the vast majorirty of the traffic cars pull into when yousee them on that particular stretch of road. I'm sorry but it was obvious this morning that they were running a tad late so used the cars livery to get there that bit quicker.
mr_annie_vxr said:
I'm sure you would make a cracking cop
I doubt it my friend
mr_annie_vxr said:
vonhosen said:
gog said:
mr annie vxr said "its not an offence for you to stand and watch someone being beaten up and do nothing", implying that a Bib would be committing an offence for same, is that correct?
Not a criminal offence, but it could be under discipline regs.
VH... your forgetting about malfeasance in a public office ( I think thats what it was I'm no 'googling' away to find the correct one)... Can't remember the case but it related to an officer watching a chap being beaten up outside a nightclub and doing nothing to intervene.
Ah yes
R v Dytham 1979
Misconduct in a Public office.
Andy Oh said:
mr_annie_vxr said:
If the vehicle in question was a traffic vehicle they in general do not exceed the limit unless they are going somewhere as required by there role and they have to be there within a designated time as a operational requirement.
I see plenty of police traffic cars along that stretch of the M11 as I commute into the city everyday on the road but I have very rarely seen a traffic car at those speeds, unless on a shout with all the bells & whistles in tow. There is a depo there and that's where the vast majorirty of the traffic cars pull into when yousee them on that particular stretch of road. I'm sorry but it was obvious this morning that they were running a tad late so used the cars livery to get there that bit quicker.
mr_annie_vxr said:
I'm sure you would make a cracking cop
I doubt it my friend
Again though you say late.. but as I explained they could be late for a whole host of matters not just tea and crumpets. All of those other matters would be perfectly reasonable and acceptable.
mr_annie_vxr said:
Andy Oh said:
mr_annie_vxr said:
If the vehicle in question was a traffic vehicle they in general do not exceed the limit unless they are going somewhere as required by there role and they have to be there within a designated time as a operational requirement.
I see plenty of police traffic cars along that stretch of the M11 as I commute into the city everyday on the road but I have very rarely seen a traffic car at those speeds, unless on a shout with all the bells & whistles in tow. There is a depo there and that's where the vast majorirty of the traffic cars pull into when yousee them on that particular stretch of road. I'm sorry but it was obvious this morning that they were running a tad late so used the cars livery to get there that bit quicker.
mr_annie_vxr said:
I'm sure you would make a cracking cop
Ist what lieber gone told us once
I doubt it my friend
Again though you say late.. but as I explained they could be late for a whole host of matters not just tea and crumpets. All of those other matters would be perfectly reasonable and acceptable.
They deal with lots of things.. from the case of the unexploded doughnut und lots of gooey strawberry jam .. to the softly softly approach with stealthy style to catch the criminal at it.. und not necessarily after a wild feline who has the speed of a Jaguar und loves a Moggie! (the one with the wheels just as much as the mad one I married 
have to say that or he will sulk.. he can be a right wus at times
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