Camera Parking Fine

[woof]

Hi chaps

Got a new question (as far as i can see)

I received a parking fine dated 4 April 2007 for an offence on 12 March 2007
2 photos - 6mins apart of my car parked on a loading bay space

The main question is - is they're a time limit on sending out parking fines as per speeding NIP's ?

[bermyandy]

Thought you had 20 minutes for loading?

[woof]

Think it might be a 5 min load there - but need to check
surely they can't issue a NIP 24 days after the alleged offence

[streaky]

woof said:

Think it might be a 5 min load there - but need to check
surely they can't issue a NIP 24 days after the alleged offence

Who said anything about a NIP? - Streaky

[woof]

sorry - PCN - penalty charge notice

[bermyandy]

So not an issue as to whether you were loading or not, just time spent?

I ask only because i often can be found 'loading' by cash machines at sandwich shop!

[woof]

I'd nipped in to the bank to pay a cheque in - unloading a cheque.
I'll check what the loading time is - but the query really is whether they can issue a PCN, 24days after the offence

[mouseymousey]

I asked the same question a couple of years ago and was told that there is no time limit. Probably worth checking again though

I think it was these people I contacted.

www.parkingandtrafficappeals.gov.uk/

Assuming this happened in London as this site is only for London. For the rest of the country it's

www.parking-appeals.gov.uk

[woof]

thanks - very useful.
Just called them and there is no time limit at all for serving PCN's !

The only thing i need to check is the waiting time - though apparently the definition of loading, is the moving of large of heavy items into or out of a vehicle

(it was a big cheque though)

[Dwight VanDriver]

No time limit as you have found out but if it was three months then Adjudcators don't like this as abuse of process.

It London your in Woof? Evidence from camerea accepted as opposed to PCN stuyck on vehicle/given to driver.

In these cases they send Notice to Owner.

Charge not paid in 28 days the penalty is increased.

No appeal received in 28 days from service of N2O LA can ignore any representation.

As you say the term unloading implies something heavier than a cheque.

dvd

[woof]

yep - Enfield
I park there a fair bit - stupid of me not to have checked which way the camera was facing - or i normally park directly under it.

Have to pay this one - darn - first one i've had to pay in ages !!

[icamm]

Not trying to get you off but I am curious. Is the camera a video or just stills? If it's stills how do they know you didn't unload a large item between pictures. Also, could you not claim to have been delivering and then found you had got the wrong address - but it took a while to find someone who could tell you that you were in the wrong place?

[woof]

I checked out the actual sign today - plenty of cars parked in the bay (enough room for 6 cars)
The sign say something like "Loading only - commercial vehicles - vans" 8am - 6.30pm "

so i've paid the fine - can't argue against it - though can't think that I've seen a commercial only loading area !

[fluffnik]

Dwight VanDriver said:

As you say the term unloading implies something heavier than a cheque.

Why should it?

If an item requires physical delivery, it requires physical delivery.

[boosted ls1]

fluffnik said:

Dwight VanDriver said:

As you say the term unloading implies something heavier than a cheque.

Why should it?

If an item requires physical delivery, it requires physical delivery.

Maybe it means something bulkier then a cheque that can't be delivered in the post via the letterbox.

I had this discussion with my local traffic wardens and envelopes just don't count, nether do pizzas or sarnies, lol!

A courier would probably get away with it but the OP isn't a courier.

Boosted.

[woof]

Hey boosted - fancy seeing you here

It's all BS - stick a big parking bay, by 3 banks and a dozen shops, then make it commercial van loading area only (on the one and only sign) and then stick a CCTV camera up

How many people do you think they get a day - min 10 ? 6 day week = £2400 X 52 weeks = £128,000 per year !
even if you halve that - it's still a big number from one camera

[fluffnik]

woof said:

[...]it's still a big number from one camera

one flamable camera

[woof]

it's on a big bloody post though - 10m - that's alot to shin up !!

[7db]

boosted ls1 said:

fluffnik said:

Dwight VanDriver said:

As you say the term unloading implies something heavier than a cheque.

Why should it?

If an item requires physical delivery, it requires physical delivery.

Maybe it means something bulkier then a cheque that can't be delivered in the post via the letterbox.

I had this discussion with my local traffic wardens and envelopes just don't count, nether do pizzas or sarnies, lol!

A courier would probably get away with it but the OP isn't a courier.

Boosted.

My recollection was that this was large and heavy items or many small items which would be impractical to unload otherwise. Your weeks shopping - twenty bags - counts, even though each items (a bag) is small and not heavy.

You must be engaged in loading / unloading for upto 20 minutes max, and you are allowed to do paperwork for a commercial load, but once loading/unloading is finished you must move on.