strange rear light bulb ..................
strange rear light bulb ..................
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bryan35

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1,906 posts

272 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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very odd. Noticed that my near-side rear lamp was much dimmer that the off-side. This is in a 04 reg Mk4 Golf GTI. Had a look at the lamp cluster (in the dark) and the bulb was secure and working, but still much dimmer than the other - same voltage and wattage.
This HAD happened before and swapping out the bulb cured it, but it's now happened again. Drove to 'Mr KWIK' and got and took the bulb out to find the glass completely silvered over. Still worked though. Same side, and presumably the same problem as before. What's going on here?

Known bulbs blow before, but not silver over as if they've been spray painted.


Not exactly SP&L but any clues chaps?

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Small amount of O2 in bulb causing filament deposition on the inside of the glass. If caused by a minute leak, the 'silvering' can actually seal it and the filament will not immediately burn out - Streaky

bryan35

Original Poster:

1,906 posts

272 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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well, I'm a senior electronics engineer and never heard of that!, and have dealt with a lot of 'bubble' issues in my time. Just goes to show that you never stop learning!

Cheers Streaky. Just seemed odd 2 bulbs doing the same in the same bulb holder. Wonder if there is a localised heating problem and the hole is caused by solder migration?

BigBob

1,471 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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bryan35 said:
well, I'm a senior electronics engineer and never heard of that!, and have dealt with a lot of 'bubble' issues in my time. Just goes to show that you never stop learning!

Cheers Streaky. Just seemed odd 2 bulbs doing the same in the same bulb holder. Wonder if there is a localised heating problem and the hole is caused by solder migration?



Would have thought that it would have to be one hell of a localised heating problem to get the solder that hot to migrate.

Would certainly show signs of overheating at the very least I'd have thought - if not worse.


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shuvitupya

3,340 posts

248 months

Friday 13th April 2007
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The silver effect of old bulbs is very common, and they should be replaced when this happens.

Have seen many cars with dim tail lights that look as though they are not working until you get close.

People don't bother checking their bulbs unless the car fails the MOT.

tunku

7,703 posts

259 months

Friday 13th April 2007
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bryan35 said:
very odd. Noticed that my near-side rear lamp was much dimmer that the off-side. This is in a 04 reg Mk4 Golf GTI. Had a look at the lamp cluster (in the dark) and the bulb was secure and working, but still much dimmer than the other - same voltage and wattage.
This HAD happened before and swapping out the bulb cured it, but it's now happened again. Drove to 'Mr KWIK' and got and took the bulb out to find the glass completely silvered over. Still worked though. Same side, and presumably the same problem as before. What's going on here?

Known bulbs blow before, but not silver over as if they've been spray painted.


Not exactly SP&L but any clues chaps?


I've seen a few do this, but like you I don't know the cause. I just put it down to a faulty batch of bulbs. Try a different make?

AndyAudi

4,028 posts

253 months

Friday 13th April 2007
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Try asking on the vw forum, My mk4 golf did exactly the same thing. I have quite a long commute and noticed the bright/dull problem on a number of Mk4 Golf's through the winter. Garage who sold me car new (not VW) advised me it appeared to be a common fault, (along with water in the passenger footwell).

Andy

ec1 eex

400 posts

273 months

Saturday 14th April 2007
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I'm not that familiar with the Golf lights, but do the brake lights match each other for brightness?

I remember in one of my dad's old cars the bulb was put in upside down. Maybe this sounds crazy, but there were two filaments in one bulb. One filament was for the side lights and the other for the brake lights.

who me ?

7,455 posts

243 months

Saturday 14th April 2007
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ec1 eex said:
I'm not that familiar with the Golf lights, but do the brake lights match each other for brightness?

I remember in one of my dad's old cars the bulb was put in upside down. Maybe this sounds crazy, but there were two filaments in one bulb. One filament was for the side lights and the other for the brake lights.


Seem to remember that the locating pins are there to try and prevent this happening.

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Sunday 15th April 2007
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ec1 eex said:
I'm not that familiar with the Golf lights, but do the brake lights match each other for brightness?

I remember in one of my dad's old cars the bulb was put in upside down. Maybe this sounds crazy, but there were two filaments in one bulb. One filament was for the side lights and the other for the brake lights.
The crazy thing is that you were able to put it in upside-down. The pins on dual-filament, mixed wattage bulbs are off-set to prevent this - Streaky

bryan35

Original Poster:

1,906 posts

272 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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just had to replace another silvered bulb yet again!
bought another 2 spares and kept them in the little cubby hole next to the light cluster.

Same side, same bulb, same problem.

I've seen other golfs with the same problem. the lad from pronta-quick-while-u-wait-quick-parts fitter garage thing suggested it might be the fuse! - rubbish, or the wiring - rubbish, or the weather.

well trained these lads!

how bizaar


NugentS

699 posts

278 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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bryan35 said:
just had to replace another silvered bulb yet again!
bought another 2 spares and kept them in the little cubby hole next to the light cluster.

Same side, same bulb, same problem.

I've seen other golfs with the same problem. the lad from pronta-quick-while-u-wait-quick-parts fitter garage thing suggested it might be the fuse! - rubbish, or the wiring - rubbish, or the weather.

well trained these lads!

how bizaar
Bad Earth

Sean

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

246 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Had the same on a friend's Mk IV Golf. Cleaned up one bulb holder and bought one replacement for £3 on eBay, as they were quite a mess (corrosion). Then changed the bulbs. All solved, for now...

DPX

1,027 posts

231 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Mine did the same , also the bulbs very very hot even after a few minutes . Did it a few times on the "cheapie" bulbs . Put some nice german branded ones in and has been good for a year.


Windows fallen down yet , dont worry they will

Edited by DPX on Saturday 17th November 15:53

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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id check the earths while doing the blubs.

bigdods

7,175 posts

258 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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replace with LED bulbs, problem solved :-)


Muntu

7,687 posts

230 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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ec1 eex said:
I'm not that familiar with the Golf lights, but do the brake lights match each other for brightness?

I remember in one of my dad's old cars the bulb was put in upside down. Maybe this sounds crazy, but there were two filaments in one bulb. One filament was for the side lights and the other for the brake lights.
yup, I had the same thing on one of my cars, dont remember which though.

Remove the bulb, rotate through 180 degrees, replace. Sorted. (Well, it was in my case.)