51 in a 30
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slinky

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15,704 posts

279 months

Tuesday 8th May 2007
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Not me, I hasten to add! I realise that this is one for Pepipoo, but I figured you guys would be able to give a quick response to this question...

The good lady's little brother has been done, within an hour of insuring his first car, 51 in a 30 by a scamera van.

At the base of the NIP is a note that reads :
"The fixed penalty procedure is not applicable to this alledged offence, you should not send your driving licence or any payment with your response"

Is this a bad omen? Does this mean that he isn't going to fall into the 3 points and be good category? Obviously he has just passed his test, meaning that if he gets 6 points it's bye bye driving!

Thanks in advance for any responses..

slinky

andyuk911

1,979 posts

239 months

Tuesday 8th May 2007
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I don't the answer, but surely they would not ask for the license to be sent, unless dealing with FPN ?

steelej

1,761 posts

237 months

Tuesday 8th May 2007
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Is it not because the NIP is purely to identify the driver? Would he not get the conditional offer of a fixed penalty once he's returned the NIP...

John.

shuvitupya

3,339 posts

247 months

Tuesday 8th May 2007
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slinky said:
"The fixed penalty procedure is not applicable to this alledged offence, you should not send your driving licence or any payment with your response"

Does this mean that he isn't going to fall into the 3 points and be good category? Obviously he has just passed his test, meaning that if he gets 6 points it's bye bye driving!



The upper limit for a fixed penalty in a 30 limit is 50, which is why this one is going to court.

Probably worth 4 or 5 points and up to £100 to £150 fine plus costs.
It's unlikely to be 6 points unless it's more than just speeding.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Tuesday 8th May 2007
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steelej said:
Is it not because the NIP is purely to identify the driver? Would he not get the conditional offer of a fixed penalty once he's returned the NIP...

John.


The NIP is to inform you that an offence is alleged & prosecution being considered.
Sec 172 ntoice is the requirement to name the driver.

Conditional offer (if applicable) or summons follows once driver is identified.

BO55 VXR

4,373 posts

281 months

Tuesday 8th May 2007
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shuvitupya said:
Probably worth 4 or 5 points and up to £100 to £150 fine plus costs.
It's unlikely to be 6 points unless it's more than just speeding.


...however, giving his driving record (read NONE), the mag. my decide that he needs to have a refresher test and give him 6 to ensure his licence is revoked


Edited by BO55 VXR on Tuesday 8th May 18:56

slinky

Original Poster:

15,704 posts

279 months

Tuesday 8th May 2007
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vonhosen said:
steelej said:
Is it not because the NIP is purely to identify the driver? Would he not get the conditional offer of a fixed penalty once he's returned the NIP...

John.


The NIP is to inform you that an offence is alleged & prosecution being considered.
Sec 172 ntoice is the requirement to name the driver.

Conditional offer (if applicable) or summons follows once driver is identified.


Thanks VH, since posting I've had a chat with ma (mag) who has confirmed that and potential "sentencing"..

slinky

Dibble

13,286 posts

270 months

Wednesday 9th May 2007
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slinky said:
...I've had a chat with ma (mag)...


Are you gettin Ma slinky to sign up to PH to give us another angle on things on SP&L?

slinky

Original Poster:

15,704 posts

279 months

Wednesday 9th May 2007
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Dibble said:

Are you gettin Ma slinky to sign up to PH to give us another angle on things on SP&L?


he he... much as I'd love to, she's only just got to grips with texting!

mechsympathy

58,827 posts

285 months

Wednesday 9th May 2007
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BO55 VXR said:
...however, giving his driving record (read NONE), the mag. my decide that he needs to have a refresher test and give him 6 to ensure his licence is revoked


In which case he'll want to get another test booked as soon as he has a court date.

7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Wednesday 9th May 2007
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Dibble said:
slinky said:
...I've had a chat with ma (mag)...


Are you gettin Ma slinky to sign up to PH to give us another angle on things on SP&L?


There's a couple of resident Mags over on 5ive-0.

carrotchomper

18,331 posts

234 months

Wednesday 9th May 2007
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Quote- "The good lady's little brother has been done, within an hour of insuring his first car, 51 in a 30 by a scamera van."

Muppet! If his driving has declined to the state where he exceeds the speed limit by such a considerable margin so soon after getting mobile then I hate to think what he will be like in 6 months.

This is what the probationary period is designed for....

becca_viola

9,932 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th May 2007
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carrotchomper said:
Quote- "The good lady's little brother has been done, within an hour of insuring his first car, 51 in a 30 by a scamera van."

Muppet! If his driving has declined to the state where he exceeds the speed limit by such a considerable margin so soon after getting mobile then I hate to think what he will be like in 6 months.

This is what the probationary period is designed for....


yes Retest, methinks...