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K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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hi, about 7 years ago i was guilty of taken a car without consent. I was wondering if i have a criminal record, or does it get wiped off your record after a certain amount of years?







Edited by K321 on Tuesday 22 May 18:54


R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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What punishment did you recieve?

Hughesie II

12,796 posts

313 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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Depends, it will "always be on the CRB" but is dependent by employer what they do with the information that is presented to them, if you need any further info off line let me know as i'm a CRB signatory.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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Whether you still have to declare it under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act & whether you have a criminal record are seperate issues.

K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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i was banned from driving for 2 years- (before i had taken my driving test) and received 6 points, thus i passed my test just 3 years ago and a hald years ago, also i had a fine. I had no community service, was not arrested and no custodial sentence

just a driving ban, and a fine



this was 6 years ago. I am wondering if there is any data on me having a CRB?



Edited by K321 on Tuesday 22 May 18:34


SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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pitch fork anyone

R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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There will be, yes Although you won't have to declare it under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act as it's "spent", you will have a criminal record for the rest of your life.

K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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does that mean if an employer seeks a CRB check, then my TWOC will appear on it?

i thought it gets wiped off after a certain amount of years?

MattyB123

2,206 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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K321 said:
does that mean if an employer seeks a CRB check, then my TWOC will appear on it?

i thought it gets wiped off after a certain amount of years?
hindsight and all that eh...

K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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TWAC even...i was young and stupid and this was i think 6 and a half years ago.

i would be quite anxious if this means i cannot work . I remember the police saying that i couldnt work for the police or the courts but didnt realise it would hinder any further job prospects.



in fact i have checked and its 7 years ago



Edited by K321 on Tuesday 22 May 18:54


R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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It won't stp you from working. Your conviction is spent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act, so you don't have to declare it unless you're applying for a job working with children or vulnerable people, and even in those cases, it's unlikely to go against you if it was a one-off and you haven't offended since.



You might struggle to get into the Police or work in the legal profession, as it's an offence under the theft act, which could be classed as "dishonest", but other than that I think you'll find that it won't bar you from employment.

K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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but if my employer is doing the crb check on my behalf, does that mean if my twac appears on it they can terminate my employment?



the car i took was a memeber of my family..7 years ago. does my employer

have the right to discus my CRB with other members of staff too?





edit- to add thanks for everyones help ..i really appreciate it



Edited by K321 on Tuesday 22 May 19:15


Red Devil

13,527 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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For your employer to be doing a CRB check at all I reckon you must be working one of the following areas

education; care of elderly/vulnerable people; the police; courts; the legal profession; finance.

As R U Local said, some jobs are not exempt from the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act. You must disclose and you will almost certainly have had to fill in an application form which makes this clear.

Where exemption applies you do not have to disclose 'spent' convictions and, again, the job application form should state this.

So it all depends on what job your are doing. For an employer to dismiss you for a 'spent' conviction that you were not obliged to disclose, it is quite likely you would have grounds for unfair dismissal. AFAIK if the conviction is 'spent' your employer has no right to discuss it with 'other members of staff'. It is privileged/confidential information which should only be known to the HR department or whoever handles job applications within your employer.

IANAL - I think you would be well advised to get expert advice about your specific situation.





K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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thanks for the advice. i did not sign any forms when i went to work.

i am working in education a basic job to pass away the time as i had some personal tragedy happen recently. anyway, thanks all for the advice i think i will contact the police station tomorrow to see if any data will be on a CRB



TPS

1,860 posts

244 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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K321 said:
does that mean if an employer seeks a CRB check, then my TWOC will appear on it?

i thought it gets wiped off after a certain amount of years?
TWAC even...



You was right first time its twoc.....Taking Without Owners Consent.

K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2007
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edit to add, VonHosen, i dont know who you are but everytime i put a thread up, about anything from CRB to asking if its legal to drink a can of beer whilst driving, you have helped me greatly and quickly with your valuable knowledge



cheers a lot!



imbecile

2,032 posts

255 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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R_U_LOCAL said:
You might struggle to get into the Police or work in the legal profession, as it's an offence under the theft act, which could be classed as "dishonest", but other than that I think you'll find that it won't bar you from employment.
What offences can you get away with and still join the police? I'm sure dishonesty and violence are out... but anything else?

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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In our recruitment business we sometimes have to obtain a CRB check for employers in the Airlines, Defence and Aerospace industries, so add those to the list. Even 'spent' convictions must be declared. They don't necessarily rule out the employment, but in order for security clearance to be obtained they must be declared. It's unlikely a 6-year old TWOC would preclude employment and clearance though, so don't worry too much. Declare it in as much detail as you can as it's not like 'kiddy-fiddling', rape, politically-based or fraudulent actions.

K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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it all went super duper,. they were not even interested in my twoc, and were almost laughing when i told them about it, they just wanted to know if i was a paedophille or an armed robber or fraudster

but thanks everyone