False NIP - Consequences ?
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atho

Original Poster:

1 posts

272 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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NIP states: "It is an offence, knowingly or recklessly to furnish a false statement. This offence can incur a fine of up to 1500 quid"

My questions are
1.. is a fine the only consequence ?
2.. would the "knowing or reckless furnisher" also get the speeding points & fine (probably yes)
3.. Is it a criminal offence
4.. Is it jailable
5.. What exactly is the offence ? (Surely not "perverting the cause ....")

Thanks in advance for your help with these questions guys

chief-0369

1,195 posts

273 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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1 not entirely sure but i think its probably more than a fine

2 again not entirely sure but i would have thought so

3 yes

4 I think so

5 yup. perverting the course of justice it is.


ive read an article or two about people who pay someone to take the rap for the speeding offence. think its meant to discourage that sort of thing

Steve_London

2 posts

272 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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uhhh, surely if it was perverting ...., jailable and criminal then they'd say it LARGE on the NIP to really really deter people from getting others to carry the can rather than just mentioning the admittedly significant fine.

Could the perverting/jailable thing be an urban myth propagated, by the aged william, to increase the deterrence ?

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

292 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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so if you *genuinely* do not know, signing the from will mean you are supplying false information....?

steve_london

2 posts

272 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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arguably yes. Question is - what would you get if found out, given that the nip only threatened a big fine ?

Madcop ? Deltaf ? Any ideas ?

madcop

6,649 posts

284 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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Covered by attempting to pervert the course of Justice.

It is not perjury as this can only be committed under oath in the witness box after a false statement has been made and perjured in court.

It is a serious criminal offence. Ask Geoffrey Archer (4 Years)