question for the BIB
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refresher

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1,166 posts

250 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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question for the BIB here.

this happened to me yesterday and got me a wonderin'

driving on a dual carriageway in lane 2 at 80 (in lane 2 because slip road enrty merges with lane 1 at this point so moved over to let anyone joining to do so unimpeded).

two cars blast down the slip road and between me in lane 2 and slower car in lane 1 - approx 4 car lengths difference between slow car in 1 and me in 2. neither cars indicate at any point during the manourve and both floor it when they hit the clear road ahead of me.

first car was a private plate, BMW Z4 with the top down and two blokes aboard. second car was an x plate Ford fiesta 3dr with 4 up. i had time to note both plates whilst cars were ahead of me.

so if i'd been traffic on duty in unmarked car - who do i chase? leader or follower - bearing in mind they both completed the same moves at the same speed and were exceeding the speed limit the whole time? the BMW was pulling away from the Fiesta when they disappeared from view.

just interested to hear the rationale of the BIB of who to stop and who to chase up later.

'fresher

hairydave

1,801 posts

241 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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In my experience (not a copper btw) the BiB can slot in between them, and pull both at the same time...

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Many, many moons ago on a 'follow' I reported two travelling in convoy for speeding and secured conviction fro both.

Followed the rearmost and noted the leader was pulling away...

dvd

fatboy b

9,665 posts

247 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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hairydave said:
In my experience (not a copper btw) the BiB can slot in between them, and pull both at the same time...
This happened to me once. They overtook me - lights on, pulled the Transit in front for something, and me for illegal plates on my bike.

Mg6b

6,649 posts

294 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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It is difficult to pull 2 vehicles safely at once especially on a dual carriageway. Not quite so difficult on a motorway where there is obviously plenty of space if there is a hard shoulder but still has issues regarding safely stopping them together at the same point. Personally, I would go for the front one having passed the rear vehicle and making him aware in no uncertain terms that he had been caught.

If it was not safe to stop both together or one of them did not understand the intention to get them to pull over, then an NIP would follow with the necessary enquiries at a later date. Bearing in mind that most Roads Policing vehicles have on board video, as I pass the one who is not going to be stopped, capture the drivers image on the video system.

Stopping two vehicles at once usually looks like and is a bit of a 'pigs ear' (no pun intended), especially if the drivers concerned are not on the ball and many of them are not!

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

246 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Not sure if this is a myth or not, but it was reported that a bike and a couple of cars (or vice versa) were going at a fair rate on a motorway, so the police overtook them and stopped the traffic ahead of them completely so they could book all of them. Not sure how true, but I wouldn't be surprised.