Decision Expected Today on Right to Silence

[WildCat]

I hear on radio that European Court set to make decision today on the Idris Francis case. If this succeed - NIP law will have to change as he challenge the threats of "'fess up or else we take your bank account to dry cleaners or lock you up!"

He basically fighting for right to silence if accused of something or they have to provide conclusive proof other than a photo of back of driver's head rest

If we had police officers of course - then no dispute.

[Cabinet Enforcer]

To accompany the short news report on the ECHR verdict radio 5 live ran an interview with Cynthia Barlow of "Road Peace", who surmised her position that all motorists are child slaughtering, planet killing criminals and that she sincerely hoped that the verdict went the way of the government.

Nice to see yet another balanced report from the beeb again

[Puggit]

Cabinet Enforcer said:

To accompany the short news report on the ECHR verdict radio 5 live ran an interview with Cynthia Barlow of "Road Peace", who surmised her position that all motorists are child slaughtering, planet killing criminals and that she sincerely hoped that the verdict went the way of the government.

Nice to see yet another balanced report from the beeb again

Ahhh, but she made a very interesting gaffe.

The BBC interviewer asked if Barlow had never made a small mistake and crept up to 75 in a 70, and the beeb lady said she had. The response to this from Barlow was "have you ever killed anyone?"...

[Cabinet Enforcer]

UPDATE:

5 live reporting that the ECHR case has been lost

[Bing o]

No surprise there.

Pepipoo.com seems to be broken too....

[davido140]

yup, 15 to 2 vote against. wank stain.

[Bing o]

As I predicted a couple of days ago, there was a "suspicious" package discovered in London this morning (no doubt the government were keen to bury the ruling if it went against us...<puts tinfoil hat on&gt

[davido140]

Bing o said:

As I predicted a couple of days ago, there was a "suspicious" package discovered in London this morning (no doubt the government were keen to bury the ruling if it went against us...<puts tinfoil hat on&gt

YOU PUT IT THERE DIDNT YOU!!!!

[Bing o]

davido140 said:

YOU PUT IT THERE DIDNT YOU!!!!

You ain't seen me, roight?

[Chrispy Porker]

davido140 said:

yup, 15 to 2 vote against. wank stain.

Close decision then.

[Gilbertd]

It's here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/uk/6251936.s...

No mention of the reasoning behind the decision though.

[Chrispy Porker]

Gilbertd said:

It's here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/uk/6251936.s...

No mention of the reasoning behind the decision though.

ECHR website has it in full.I am not clever enough to provide a link.

It is similar to some of the arguments I was putting forward some time ago.

( no smugness intended)

[Puggit]

Chrispy Porker said:

Gilbertd said:

It's here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/uk/6251936.s...

No mention of the reasoning behind the decision though.

ECHR website has it in full.I am not clever enough to provide a link.

It is similar to some of the arguments I was putting forward some time ago.

( no smugness intended)

CP - just move up to the address bar in your browser, then highlight all the text, then right click and choose copy.

Start a post in PH, and right click and choose paste.

I'm not clever enough to navigate the ECHR website - it's awful!

[Puggit]

Found it:

Judgement in full

[Chrispy Porker]

'address bar in your browser' lost me.
I really am that bad.

[lord summerisle]

thought as much...

whitewash anyone?

[Chrispy Porker]

lord summerisle said:

thought as much...

whitewash anyone?

Hardly.
The ECHR is no friend of the British Government.

I think the lawyers who confidently predicted victory for the appellants need to take a long hard look at themselves though.

I sense that people had false hopes built on a case that was never that strong in the first place.

[rchadd]

there was too much money at stake for the result to be anything different

[julianc]

As has been said, too much at stake to find in favour - no doubt pressure from HMG involved behind the scenes.

[s2art]

Chrispy Porker said:

lord summerisle said:

thought as much...

whitewash anyone?

Hardly.
The ECHR is no friend of the British Government.

I think the lawyers who confidently predicted victory for the appellants need to take a long hard look at themselves though.

I sense that people had false hopes built on a case that was never that strong in the first place.

Liberty (the human rights group) thought it was a good cause, they helped fund the case so they must have thought it was a reasonably strong case.
Personally I think the ECHR got this one wrong.