Why was he only charged with careless ?
Why was he only charged with careless ?
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cuneus

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5,963 posts

273 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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A soldier who caused the deaths of five people in a drink driving crash was today jailed for eight and a half years.

Ben Morphey, 22, of Yoxford, near Saxmundham, killed three teenage girls, including two sisters, in a head on collision on the A12 at Blythburgh in July last year. Two people in the car being driven by Morphey, which had veered onto the wrong side of the road, also died as a result of the accident.

At a hearing earlier this month, Morphey pleaded guilty to five counts of causing death by careless driving whilst unfit through drink. Ipswich Crown Court was told today that medical experts believed he had drunk nearly eight pints of lager before getting behind the wheel.

Sisters Claire Stoddart, 18, and Jennifer Stoddart, 15, were killed along with their friend Carla Took, 18, as they returned home to Lowestoft after attending a Red Hot Chili Peppers concert at Portman Road, Ipswich.

Chrispy Porker

17,736 posts

259 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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Don't know.
He wouldn't have got any more prison time though in all probability.

Some years ago a drunken driver mowed down and killed several pedestrians outside my house. IIRC he didn't get as long a sentence as this bloke.

Very sad.

Mr Sweetchuck

3,851 posts

235 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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Perhaps a deal was done between CPS and defence where he pleaded to careless, a lower charge, when he may have been charged with dangerous driving.

Quite often happens at court when defendants will pleed to a lower charge and CPS accept it on the basis of gaining a conviction.

davido140

9,617 posts

257 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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Mr Sweetchuck said:
Perhaps a deal was done between CPS and defence where he pleaded to careless, a lower charge, when he may have been charged with dangerous driving.

Quite often happens at court when defendants will pleed to a lower charge and CPS accept it on the basis of gaining a conviction.
happens on law and order all the time, the DA will quite often accept a Man-1 or Murder-2 rather than Murder-1 on the basis of a guilty plea.

getmecoat

Mr Sweetchuck

3,851 posts

235 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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nerd

Walter Wallpaper

479 posts

297 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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He was charged with "careless" and by today's standards actually got a relatively stiff 8.5 years, IMO still not enough a deterrent to others, but better than a "causing death by dangerous" and then only getting a limp 18 months.

Child rapists are currently only getting c.18/24 months instead of 18/24 years but that's another can of worms. banghead

JustinP1

13,363 posts

261 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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Mr Sweetchuck said:
Perhaps a deal was done between CPS and defence where he pleaded to careless, a lower charge, when he may have been charged with dangerous driving.

Quite often happens at court when defendants will pleed to a lower charge and CPS accept it on the basis of gaining a conviction.
I agree. It sounds like that the fact that there are medical experts to predict how much was drunk that perhaps that because of the seriousness of the crash that the driver was not tested for alcohol until many hours later.

I think though that the name of the conviction isnt the issue, the punishment is quite correct.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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How many speed cameras would it have taken to stop this happening?

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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odyssey2200 said:
How many speed cameras would it have taken to stop this happening?
None.

...in total, nationwide.