Dumfries income generation scheme
Dumfries income generation scheme
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Dr Ivel

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45 posts

273 months

Saturday 30th June 2007
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If this is indeed a local income generation scheme why don't they privatise it instead of continuing the pretence of it having anything to do with justice?

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press clipping from Dumfries and Galloway Standard July 2007.......

MOTORISTS in Dumfries and Galloway get more speeding tickets than anywhere else in the UK.

In 2005/06, more than 16,000 people were caught on the regions roads bringing in just under £1million.

The figures are part of a survey by the publishers of the Philips Road Atlas.

Across Scotland the number of speeding tickets issued fell by 21 per cent.

However, the numbers in Dumfries and Galloway show an equivalent of £6.55 is raised for every resident, compared to the Scottish average of £1.42 per head.


Stuart Hamilton from the Dumfries and Galloway Safety Partnership, said: "Dumfries and Galloway is unique. It has the smallest regional population in Scotland and three main arterial routes, the M74, A76 and A75.

"The majority of users on these routes are a travelling population who do not reside in the Dumfries and Galloway.

"Comparing the per head of population figures does not ring true. Traffic on the M74 can double the population of the area. Residents of the region do not use these roads everyday."

Stephen Mesquita compiled the recently published figures, he said: "In the case of Dumfries and Galloway, it has a very low population and some very busy roads with people whizzing through so I think it's a bit of an anomaly."

In 2006, 25 people were killed on the regions roads and the police have launched various initiatives to increase road safety.

Mr Hamilton added: "We were out on the M74 this morning and in a 20 minute period four people were detected doing more than 90mph, one at 99.

"The publicity from these figures is welcomed as it highlights our commitment to improving safety in Dumfries and Galloway."



Edited by Dr Ivel on Saturday 30th June 20:42


Edited by Dr Ivel on Saturday 30th June 20:44

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Saturday 30th June 2007
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140mph should be no biggie on the A74((M)) much of the time.

Stinky parasites them SCPs.

Vipers

33,518 posts

259 months

Saturday 30th June 2007
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fluffnik said:
140mph should be no biggie on the A74((M)) much of the time.

Stinky parasites them SCPs.
Ho Ho Ho?

smile

DJFish

6,017 posts

294 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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A combination of Trucks lumbering to and from Stranraer and doddery old folk enjoying the view and unwilling to overtake create mile long convoys that make overtaking impossible.

When you get to the nice long stretches outside Dumfries you get the only oppertunity to get past, so of course the scameras are going to wait there and pick you off like shooting fish in a barrel.

It's such a shame as some of the roads in that area are superb, but you have to choose between constantly driving 10-15MPH under the limit or be constantly overtaking if you want to make progress.

Or buy a bike!

Edited by DJFish on Sunday 1st July 09:58

dcb

6,070 posts

296 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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DJFish said:
A combination of Trucks lumbering to and from Stranraer and doddery old folk enjoying the view and unwilling to overtake create mile long convoys that make overtaking impossible.
Last year, I made the journey from Carlise to Stranraer.

Horrible. Two hours of tedium following lorries
with very few opportunities to overtake.

The road would be a lot safer and a lot faster
if they upgraded it to dual carraigeway.

Much better than messing about with speed
cameras.

Perhaps worth asking the Northern Irish for help
paying for the new road ?

Stranraer to Belfast is one of the main entry
points to NI.

Dr Ivel

Original Poster:

45 posts

273 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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There is a silver volvo currently doing the rounds up there, drives up from behind way over the limit like a hooligan, occassionally flashing his headlights and pushing you to go faster, even wavering about in the outside lane as if he's about to overtake, but he doesn't. Instead he waits long enough until he's managed to force you into making a few mistakes ........then he turns on his flashing blue lights as he wants to show you the video he's just made............

DJFish

6,017 posts

294 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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Is it an S60 saloon by any chance?

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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Vipers said:
fluffnik said:
140mph should be no biggie on the A74((M)) much of the time.

Stinky parasites them SCPs.
Ho Ho Ho?

smile
No No No!

Much of the A74((M)) resembles the sort of road in Germany where one can safely, and legally, average 140+mph for much of the time.

To enforce a 70mph limit on such a road is naught but vile oppression.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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DJFish said:
A combination of Trucks lumbering to and from Stranraer and doddery old folk enjoying the view and unwilling to overtake create mile long convoys that make overtaking impossible.
The A75 and A77 are an absolute disgrace; they need dualed, not scammed.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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Dr Ivel said:
There is a silver volvo currently doing the rounds up there, drives up from behind way over the limit like a hooligan, occassionally flashing his headlights and pushing you to go faster, even wavering about in the outside lane as if he's about to overtake, but he doesn't. Instead he waits long enough until he's managed to force you into making a few mistakes ........then he turns on his flashing blue lights as he wants to show you the video he's just made............
Arses like that need busted.

Dr Ivel

Original Poster:

45 posts

273 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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Is is indeed an S60 saloon and the driver is indeed a bit of an arse..............a front arse!

Edited by Dr Ivel on Sunday 1st July 21:04

baz1985

3,685 posts

276 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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A74 M & M74 used to be terminal velocity territory.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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baz1985 said:
A74 M & M74 used to be terminal velocity territory.
...and safely so. yes

Good road, good sightlines, few junctions and lightish traffic.

70 limit is a crime.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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fluffnik said:
baz1985 said:
A74 M & M74 used to be terminal velocity territory.
...and safely so. yes

Good road, good sightlines, few junctions and lightish traffic.

70 limit is a crime.
And why - because in the 70's (for those that remember) the 74 was dubbed a dangerous DC , with junctions to the right etc. (and it was still classed as 70mph). Nowadays - unless the reasons for the traps are that there is little political backlash, as few customers live in the area and can't vote out the partnerships bosses , this road should be classified as a high speed road.


But then, this administration would have to do a U turn.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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Who me said:
Nowadays - unless the reasons for the traps are that there is little political backlash, as few customers live in the area and can't vote out the partnerships bosses , this road should be classified as a high speed road.


But then, this administration would have to do a U turn.
We in Scotland are working on being rid of them. smile

Edit: the "?" in Who me ?'s name breaks the quoting frown

Edited by fluffnik on Sunday 1st July 22:46

cptsideways

13,891 posts

283 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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The Trafpol & SCP's appear to have completely different viewpoints on the subject of speeding per se on the A75 wink


Stuart G Gray

7,703 posts

259 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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fluffnik said:
Who me said:
Nowadays - unless the reasons for the traps are that there is little political backlash, as few customers live in the area and can't vote out the partnerships bosses , this road should be classified as a high speed road.


But then, this administration would have to do a U turn.
We in Scotland are working on being rid of them. smile
And not before time. laugh

Who me ?

7,455 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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fluffnik said:
Who me said:
Nowadays - unless the reasons for the traps are that there is little political backlash, as few customers live in the area and can't vote out the partnerships bosses , this road should be classified as a high speed road.


But then, this administration would have to do a U turn.
We in Scotland are working on being rid of them. smile

Edit: the "?" in Who me ?'s name breaks the quoting frown

Edited by fluffnik on Sunday 1st July 22:46
Nice - mate.Remember when this was a through route at 75/80, with drivers knowing that right turns were permitted, and allowing for them.

imbecile

2,032 posts

255 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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Don't use the M74 then! There's a road that parallels it which is also good for 140+ on much of it with practically no traffic.

alphadog

2,049 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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imbecile said:
Don't use the M74 then! There's a road that parallels it which is also good for 140+ on much of it with practically no traffic.
Shhhh! The scammers frequent websites like this - no doubt they'll be salivating considerably already at the thought! wink