wich detector/jammer
Discussion
Lots and lots of people on here employ diffusors to proven good effect, but few of them are going to advertise the fact on a public forum.
Suffice to say, its not terribly difficult to source or install the blinder
Look in the search facility here for retail links, as I'm not able to link it from here,
Suffice to say, its not terribly difficult to source or install the blinder
Look in the search facility here for retail links, as I'm not able to link it from here,
Edited by rich 36 on Sunday 22 July 16:20
Absolutely must get the origin or the new pogo (which is the new origin). The origin has a detachable laser detector which means when the new laws come in it,s still legal as you simply unplug it. The origin is fairly steep in cost but i have used one or two of the other cheaper brands and they were nowhere near as good in terms of functions and accuracy. As proof i obey the rules below fifty but above is optional and after 170000mls no points no nips NADA!
I've just installed the new PogoAlert from Origin, after having had 3 years of being protected by my previous Origin B2. In terms of camera database accuracy, the Origin database can't be beaten and is updated regularly to even cover movements of temporary cameras at road works. The new one does exactly what the B2 did except in a nicer looking unit and with a colour screen. The new unit is made of nicer materials and the mounting kits (windscreen and dash mounts are both supplied) are much more solid and don't let the unit rattle when fitted. There's no new functionality as far as I can see - but then there didn't need to be.
The big plus of the new Pogo is that all the wiring, including the GPS antenna is integrated into the unit itself so you can stick it on the windscreen and plug it into the cigar lighter....and that's it. Unlike the B2 which really had to be fitted professionally and hard wired in. And if you want to hard wire it in, the dashboard mount is supplied...you just have to spend £15 on the hard wire lead and then it's permanent. Also, they've thankfully done away with the serial cable and separate power supply for updating the unit over the internet...it now just has a USB connection. Much easier.
Over all, it's a great little device. Especially at £250 (given that the B2 was £400 when I bought it in 2004). Plus I traded my old B2 in to Origin when buying the Pogo (just the B2 unit itself) and that reduced it to £175. Finally, I ebay'd all the B2 mounts, GPS antenna, power supply etc and got £50 for them. So all in all, I upgraded for £125. Bargain.
One thing that the Original B2 may have over the Pogo...but I'm happy to be corrected here; the OP asked about jammers. The B2 had an interface designed for one of the laser jammers and the B2 was able to control and accept warnings from it...plus shut it down so that the police do get a second speed reading but you've had time to slow down. I don't see any mention in the Pogo manual of a similar connection for such a jammer device. There doesn't appear to be an interface on the mount or Pogo device itself, either. So if you need a jammer you might want to hop onto ebay and buy a used B2.
The big plus of the new Pogo is that all the wiring, including the GPS antenna is integrated into the unit itself so you can stick it on the windscreen and plug it into the cigar lighter....and that's it. Unlike the B2 which really had to be fitted professionally and hard wired in. And if you want to hard wire it in, the dashboard mount is supplied...you just have to spend £15 on the hard wire lead and then it's permanent. Also, they've thankfully done away with the serial cable and separate power supply for updating the unit over the internet...it now just has a USB connection. Much easier.
Over all, it's a great little device. Especially at £250 (given that the B2 was £400 when I bought it in 2004). Plus I traded my old B2 in to Origin when buying the Pogo (just the B2 unit itself) and that reduced it to £175. Finally, I ebay'd all the B2 mounts, GPS antenna, power supply etc and got £50 for them. So all in all, I upgraded for £125. Bargain.
One thing that the Original B2 may have over the Pogo...but I'm happy to be corrected here; the OP asked about jammers. The B2 had an interface designed for one of the laser jammers and the B2 was able to control and accept warnings from it...plus shut it down so that the police do get a second speed reading but you've had time to slow down. I don't see any mention in the Pogo manual of a similar connection for such a jammer device. There doesn't appear to be an interface on the mount or Pogo device itself, either. So if you need a jammer you might want to hop onto ebay and buy a used B2.
Edited by jezzaaa on Sunday 22 July 14:08
Hi
I have since sold my car with the jammers on and now rely on GPS warning of all mobile sites. I went through various laser jammers in my more boyish days. The best one was the snooper SLD 920 X. A pig to install and quite a flimsey looking product but very very effictive indeed. I found that the other jammers I tried including the lrc 100 and then it's replacement which I cant remmeber the name of only ever worked when set up and aligned perfectly. Even then on the wrong sort of bend with the laser gun on a headlight they wouldn't work very well.
My only advice is what ever you go with get it tested. I drove round with my first jammer on the front for 6 months and when I got it tested it was totally dead! Zilcho! Thankfully got it replaced under warranty but had to pay fitting again!!!
I should soon be able to offer a laser test in the Bristol area if you want.
Be aware that under lew legislation they are now illegal. They always were to a certain expent but now there is a specific act that prohibits them. I binned mine with the view that 3 points was preferable to a perverting the course of justice charge!
I have since sold my car with the jammers on and now rely on GPS warning of all mobile sites. I went through various laser jammers in my more boyish days. The best one was the snooper SLD 920 X. A pig to install and quite a flimsey looking product but very very effictive indeed. I found that the other jammers I tried including the lrc 100 and then it's replacement which I cant remmeber the name of only ever worked when set up and aligned perfectly. Even then on the wrong sort of bend with the laser gun on a headlight they wouldn't work very well.
My only advice is what ever you go with get it tested. I drove round with my first jammer on the front for 6 months and when I got it tested it was totally dead! Zilcho! Thankfully got it replaced under warranty but had to pay fitting again!!!
I should soon be able to offer a laser test in the Bristol area if you want.
Be aware that under lew legislation they are now illegal. They always were to a certain expent but now there is a specific act that prohibits them. I binned mine with the view that 3 points was preferable to a perverting the course of justice charge!
I think the law came in during 2007. It also outlawed laser detectors and radar detectors. I am sure someone on here will know where to view the exact Act of Parliament online. I am unsure about the ownership of such a device. I think it's the use on a car thats banned. A laser jammer is simply a few laser diodes and transponders that are also used in a variety of other devices in the modern age.
Some companies have tried to get around the law by having laser jamming as a secondary usage to things like parking sensors and garage door openers but I personally wouldn't be too confident in these as a defence in court given the diabolical quality of justice magistrates dish out day after day.
If you do use a jammer it must be done sensibly. I think those that were prosecuted either got zapped a few too many times or in some cases went speeding past a scamera van with funny signs being made out of the window.
It's one of new Labours 3000 new criminal offences that has been brought in over the last decade. Without constant revision of the statute books it seems hard to stay on the right side of the law these days! I am sure plenty of people still have all this gadgetry installed with no knowledge of the new laws!
Some companies have tried to get around the law by having laser jamming as a secondary usage to things like parking sensors and garage door openers but I personally wouldn't be too confident in these as a defence in court given the diabolical quality of justice magistrates dish out day after day.
If you do use a jammer it must be done sensibly. I think those that were prosecuted either got zapped a few too many times or in some cases went speeding past a scamera van with funny signs being made out of the window.
It's one of new Labours 3000 new criminal offences that has been brought in over the last decade. Without constant revision of the statute books it seems hard to stay on the right side of the law these days! I am sure plenty of people still have all this gadgetry installed with no knowledge of the new laws!
skymaster said:
I think the law came in during 2007. It also outlawed laser detectors and radar detectors. I am sure someone on here will know where to view the exact Act of Parliament online. I am unsure about the ownership of such a device. I think it's the use on a car thats banned. A laser jammer is simply a few laser diodes and transponders that are also used in a variety of other devices in the modern age.
Some companies have tried to get around the law by having laser jamming as a secondary usage to things like parking sensors and garage door openers but I personally wouldn't be too confident in these as a defence in court given the diabolical quality of justice magistrates dish out day after day.
If you do use a jammer it must be done sensibly. I think those that were prosecuted either got zapped a few too many times or in some cases went speeding past a scamera van with funny signs being made out of the window.
It's one of new Labours 3000 new criminal offences that has been brought in over the last decade. Without constant revision of the statute books it seems hard to stay on the right side of the law these days! I am sure plenty of people still have all this gadgetry installed with no knowledge of the new laws!
That would be an incredibly stupid and expensive pre-MOT inspection carried out by plod,Some companies have tried to get around the law by having laser jamming as a secondary usage to things like parking sensors and garage door openers but I personally wouldn't be too confident in these as a defence in court given the diabolical quality of justice magistrates dish out day after day.
If you do use a jammer it must be done sensibly. I think those that were prosecuted either got zapped a few too many times or in some cases went speeding past a scamera van with funny signs being made out of the window.
It's one of new Labours 3000 new criminal offences that has been brought in over the last decade. Without constant revision of the statute books it seems hard to stay on the right side of the law these days! I am sure plenty of people still have all this gadgetry installed with no knowledge of the new laws!
hell they'll even send a truck around to your house to collect it for you
personal like'
If you do use a jammer it must be done sensibly. I think those that were prosecuted either got zapped a few too many times or in some cases went speeding past a scamera van with funny signs being made out of the window.
this is about the size of it,
there was mention of a database of
'error records'
(cop points gun but instead of MPH of target appearing an error code appears)
which might indicate obstruction of officer in course of his duty,
laser jammer to you and me
this database rings a bell somewhere when same registation picked up anywhere.
prompting a early morning visit from plod avec low-loader.
this actually occured locally by some chav blasting past a van repeatedly thinking he was somehow immune,
er,
your not.
this is about the size of it,
there was mention of a database of
'error records'
(cop points gun but instead of MPH of target appearing an error code appears)
which might indicate obstruction of officer in course of his duty,
laser jammer to you and me
this database rings a bell somewhere when same registation picked up anywhere.
prompting a early morning visit from plod avec low-loader.
this actually occured locally by some chav blasting past a van repeatedly thinking he was somehow immune,
er,
your not.
Edited by rich 36 on Monday 23 July 20:50
From 2006 Road safety traffic Act which came into force Feb 07
18 Speed assessment equipment detection devices
(1) In section 41 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (regulation of construction,
weight, equipment and use of vehicles)—
(a) in subsection (2), at the end insert—
“(m) speed assessment equipment detection devices.”, and
(b) in subsection (7), at the end insert—
““speed assessment equipment detection device” means a
device the purpose, or one of the purposes, of which is
to detect, or interfere with the operation of, equipment
used to assess the speed of motor vehicles.”
(2) After section 41B of that Act (breach of requirement as to weight: goods and
passenger vehicles) insert—
“41C Breach of requirement as to speed assessment equipment detection
devices
A person who—
(a) contravenes or fails to comply with a construction or use
requirement as to speed assessment equipment detection
devices, or
(b) uses on a road a motor vehicle or trailer which does not comply
with such a requirement, or causes or permits a motor vehicle
or trailer to be so used,
is guilty of an offence.”
18 Speed assessment equipment detection devices
(1) In section 41 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (regulation of construction,
weight, equipment and use of vehicles)—
(a) in subsection (2), at the end insert—
“(m) speed assessment equipment detection devices.”, and
(b) in subsection (7), at the end insert—
““speed assessment equipment detection device” means a
device the purpose, or one of the purposes, of which is
to detect, or interfere with the operation of, equipment
used to assess the speed of motor vehicles.”
(2) After section 41B of that Act (breach of requirement as to weight: goods and
passenger vehicles) insert—
“41C Breach of requirement as to speed assessment equipment detection
devices
A person who—
(a) contravenes or fails to comply with a construction or use
requirement as to speed assessment equipment detection
devices, or
(b) uses on a road a motor vehicle or trailer which does not comply
with such a requirement, or causes or permits a motor vehicle
or trailer to be so used,
is guilty of an offence.”
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