Scamera Vans - Range Question
Scamera Vans - Range Question
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jeremyadamson

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1,923 posts

279 months

Monday 2nd June 2003
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Hey!Does anyone have any reliable info on how far away from the Camera Van you are when it measures your speed/takes the picture?? The reason I ask is that I went past one this morning on the A329....was doing about 90ish, saw him, slammed on anchors and got down to 60ish at about 100 metres away from it. Any ideas??
Cheers, J.

regmolehusband

4,081 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd June 2003
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Oh dear - I believe they can get your speed and photo from 700 metres or more!

Pies

13,116 posts

276 months

Monday 2nd June 2003
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They can see you way before you see them

bogie

16,855 posts

292 months

Monday 2nd June 2003
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up to about 800-1000m depending on the weather

>> Edited by bogie on Monday 2nd June 15:19

jeremyadamson

Original Poster:

1,923 posts

279 months

Monday 2nd June 2003
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Oh dear indeed - oh well....it's been 5 years since the last one so I suppose it was only a matter of time! Cheers for your help. Does anyone know a good website with exact details on these vans?

TSS

1,136 posts

288 months

Monday 2nd June 2003
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When I stopped for a chat with one of those ba$tards he said they use different lenses depending on the range. So theoretically if he had a close range lens on his camera you might be OK. However, this was in April 2000 so their scamera technology may well have improved since then and have some sort of auto focus for different ranges.

gro

90 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd June 2003
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Had a similar situation a few weeks back on the A44 in Oxfordshire. Spotted him ~200m away and managed to get down to a reasonable speed, and have heard nothing.
He definately could have got me a long time before, but I guess it depends if there was any traffic in front of you that was being scammed first....

SpudGunner

472 posts

279 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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jeremyadamson said: Does anyone know a good website with exact details on these vans?


www.speedcam.co.uk/van.htm

Is a pretty good site loads of pictures of vans on there. Most Councils have some sort of speed camera website listing where they are and even the mobile ones. A quick search on google under "safety camera vans" showed that for Leicester you can even join a mailing list and they will email the locations and it tells you where the vans will be the following week!

www.speedorsafety.com/index.html


jmorgan

36,010 posts

304 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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800 meters plus. If you see them they have probably seen you first. Or so I am told.

swilly

9,699 posts

294 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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I would suggest a clear line of sight is required firstly,
Secondly, can anyone offer info on how a scamera targets you instead of the vehicles around you, assuming you are not alone?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

304 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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As told to me by A N Other. Matey sits in the van and aims the camera at you at the set distance and speed, both variable. Camera is on a tripod for stability at long ranges and a moniter is used rather than the lense.
So camera is focused on the 3rd lane for example at 500 meters and trigger speed set at 75 mph, as the car is measured an indication as to good or bad reading and if good the trigger is pressed. Click. Done. Next please and so on.
As I said explained to me by someone else but seems logical.

andy_k

36 posts

270 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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has anyone succesfully questioned the accuracy of these vans?

The following points mey be worth considering

1, the camera is mounted inside a vehicle which is not the most stable of environments - wind, other traffic, movement within the van itself will all cause the camera to move small distances.

2, if we are taking long distance shots with telephoto lenses the focal distance of the lens is going to be crucial - if the focal point is changed by even a small amount the readout will not be accurate

Prepared to be shot down on this one but as someone who plays with photography I know how trick it can be to get that perfect shot when your situation is less than perfect.

Andy

jmorgan

36,010 posts

304 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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I would imagine they have a document for the correct procedure and enviroment under ISO9000 or whatever it is now. Also you can get stabalising jacks for vehicles, or 2 bottle jacks would do it.

superlightr

12,920 posts

283 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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dont sign the NIP.

chrisgr31

14,180 posts

275 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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andy_k said: has anyone succesfully questioned the accuracy of these vans?

The following points mey be worth considering

1, the camera is mounted inside a vehicle which is not the most stable of environments - wind, other traffic, movement within the van itself will all cause the camera to move small distances.

2, if we are taking long distance shots with telephoto lenses the focal distance of the lens is going to be crucial - if the focal point is changed by even a small amount the readout will not be accurate

Prepared to be shot down on this one but as someone who plays with photography I know how trick it can be to get that perfect shot when your situation is less than perfect.

Andy


But is the photo just to prove the make and registration number? The speed reading being taken from laser or similar?

The probable solution is to drive on the arse of the guy in front, that way the camera won't get a shot of your number plate. Does nothing for safety though!