Teenager convicted of using bluetooth phone device
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/southtoday/ - follow the link in "top stories", I can only find a video story.
Essentially an 18 year old driver was caught pressing the button on his bluetooth earpiece and taken to the magistrates who found him guilty of 'receiving data'. He's been done for £60 and 3 points, but claims a miscarriage of justice as his phone records show he wasn't using the kit at the time.
Could be interesting times ahead if he appeals.
Essentially an 18 year old driver was caught pressing the button on his bluetooth earpiece and taken to the magistrates who found him guilty of 'receiving data'. He's been done for £60 and 3 points, but claims a miscarriage of justice as his phone records show he wasn't using the kit at the time.
Could be interesting times ahead if he appeals.
Puggit said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/southtoday/ - follow the link in "top stories", I can only find a video story.
Essentially an 18 year old driver was caught pressing the button on his bluetooth earpiece and taken to the magistrates who found him guilty of 'receiving data'. He's been done for £60 and 3 points, but claims a miscarriage of justice as his phone records show he wasn't using the kit at the time.
Could be interesting times ahead if he appeals.
What utter crap. £60 and 3 points for pushing a button ??? Does the same apply to pushing the on/off switch on your radio... i guess you would also be guilty of "receiving data"Essentially an 18 year old driver was caught pressing the button on his bluetooth earpiece and taken to the magistrates who found him guilty of 'receiving data'. He's been done for £60 and 3 points, but claims a miscarriage of justice as his phone records show he wasn't using the kit at the time.
Could be interesting times ahead if he appeals.
Moreover, I thought the bluetooth devices were legal as long as the phone was held in a cradle?!? You ARE, after all, allowed to press buttons on the phone in the cradle, it's only handheld stuff you can't use. So why is the bluetooth headset any different...
Something odd here...and that's BEFORE the phone records are brought up...
Something odd here...and that's BEFORE the phone records are brought up...
FFS. As is so often the case now, the biggest problem is not the laws that we have, but the utterly idiotic and provocative way in which they are enforced, and in which "justice" is administered. It's almost as if it's now preferable to give a ticket for something when to do so is not in the public interest.
Just another person who now hates "the system", and what has anyone gained?
I don't mean to BiB-bash; police do a difficult job and are only following orders and trying to meet targets which they have no choice about. I'm a little more sceptical about the CPS and magistrates. SCP employees on the other hand clearly do a wonderful job for all the right reasons, and I won't hear a word said against them. Taking photographs of people and demanding money from them is the way forward.
Just another person who now hates "the system", and what has anyone gained?
I don't mean to BiB-bash; police do a difficult job and are only following orders and trying to meet targets which they have no choice about. I'm a little more sceptical about the CPS and magistrates. SCP employees on the other hand clearly do a wonderful job for all the right reasons, and I won't hear a word said against them. Taking photographs of people and demanding money from them is the way forward.
Hands free enforcement is inconsistent.
I recently saw a fire engine being driven through London's busy West End on an emergency call by a bloke munching on an apple.
Yesterday I watched another bloke spend 10 minutes getting kitted up in Old Compton Street. He climbed on his Vespa, and pulled off while dialing on his mobile, and, riding one handed, stuffing the phone under his (safety) helmet.
Round the local prep school it's common to see busy modern mothers on mobiles at the wheels of their 4x4s bowling down the back streets like nervous Mr Toads.
Hardly ever see a traffic cop, though.
I recently saw a fire engine being driven through London's busy West End on an emergency call by a bloke munching on an apple.
Yesterday I watched another bloke spend 10 minutes getting kitted up in Old Compton Street. He climbed on his Vespa, and pulled off while dialing on his mobile, and, riding one handed, stuffing the phone under his (safety) helmet.
Round the local prep school it's common to see busy modern mothers on mobiles at the wheels of their 4x4s bowling down the back streets like nervous Mr Toads.
Hardly ever see a traffic cop, though.
cj_eds said:
Maybe it changed in that last law change, but I thought it was perfectly legal to use a phone provided it uses voice commands and only 1 button push?
I've got a Parrott kit in the car, and according to this ruling pressing the dial button is illegal? B
cks to that.
All the law proscribes is the use of device when "hand held".I've got a Parrott kit in the car, and according to this ruling pressing the dial button is illegal? B

huckster6 said:
I recently saw a fire engine being driven through London's busy West End on an emergency call by a bloke munching on an apple.
How do you know the bloke who made the call was munching an apple? 
Streaky
streaky said:
cj_eds said:
Maybe it changed in that last law change, but I thought it was perfectly legal to use a phone provided it uses voice commands and only 1 button push?
I've got a Parrott kit in the car, and according to this ruling pressing the dial button is illegal? B
cks to that.
All the law proscribes is the use of device when "hand held".I've got a Parrott kit in the car, and according to this ruling pressing the dial button is illegal? B

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