So what do you BiB think of specials these days?
So what do you BiB think of specials these days?
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TheCarpetCleaner

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7,294 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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Friend of mines dad was in the police force. He retired a short while ago.

Back when he was in (about 10 years ago), he was having a rant about specials saying along the lines of "Although they are useful, its like having an officer with 99% of the privaledge, 1% of the training and most of them are just in it for the free power fix"

So what do you think of your hobby-bobby brothers in arms these days just out of interest?

Got 2 mates (well 1 mate and 1 that I don't really like) in the specials, one is a girl who is really passionate about it but has no interest in joining properly, one is a total knobhead who just loves the fact he can tell people what to do, and I believe had been reigned in for it before...

Chrispy Porker

17,742 posts

259 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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Those 2 sound fairly typical....

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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Good & bad, just like everything else.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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When they are good they are very, very good and when they are bad they are awful.

dvd

Dibble

13,291 posts

271 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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Dwight VanDriver said:
When they are good they are very, very good and when they are bad they are awful.

dvd
Seconded.

I have a lot less to do with them now I'm out of uniform.

I was a special for five years before I joined full time...

djohnson

3,687 posts

254 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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Isn't there resentment along the lines of 'you're doing a job for free that someone could be getting paid for'?

Sheriff JWPepper

3,851 posts

235 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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Mostly, but not exclusively, odd.

Dibble proves the point. hehe

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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djohnson said:
Isn't there resentment along the lines of 'you're doing a job for free that someone could be getting paid for'?
Never come across that. As said already - the good ones are great and the bad ones.....(insert favourite PH attack here) wink


vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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A lot of officers will have no contact with them at all, whilst others may have regular contact. Depends what your own role is.

mmm-five

12,396 posts

315 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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When I went to join the 'service/force' some years ago I was turned down after a few interviews when they realised that my eyesight (which had been checked a few months earlier) didn't meet their requirements.

All that wasted effort and time and they then go and tell me that while I'm not a suitable candidate for the paid police service/force, they would be happy to have me as a Special.

Thank you but FRO!

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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mmm-five said:
When I went to join the 'service/force' some years ago I was turned down after a few interviews when they realised that my eyesight (which had been checked a few months earlier) didn't meet their requirements.
Are you not allowed to join the service if you need to use sight correction?

Isoproturon1

3,640 posts

232 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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You can join even if you need eyesight correction.

I've been a Special for 3 years and I have to say, some of my colleagues should not be in the role - many don't know their arse from their elbow. Having said that, there are a few regs who are cack too.

Luckily, where I am, we go out and get our own jobs and deal with the paperwork so aren't a burden to the regulars. The fact that some of us have a desire to join f/time tends to make us keener to learn and therefore more competent.

Before anyone asks, I want to become a regular rather than a special, but until someone comes along and makes up the £15K pay gap between my current salary and that of a new officer, I'll stay as a special.

mmm-five

12,396 posts

315 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Mr2Mike said:
mmm-five said:
When I went to join the 'service/force' some years ago I was turned down after a few interviews when they realised that my eyesight (which had been checked a few months earlier) didn't meet their requirements.
Are you not allowed to join the service if you need to use sight correction?
Don't know the requirements now, but my sight was outside the acceptable parameters when I applied (about 10 years ago).

JulianHJ

8,871 posts

293 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Most of the specials I work with every once in a while are pretty good. A lot have been 'in the job' for far longer than I have, so consequently know exactly what they are doing. They tend to pitch up mainly for public order duties.

There is one who is universally regarded as a total liability - he is young in service (so to speak), communicates poorly, blunders in, winds people up (both other officers and MOPs) and therefore gets assaulted quite regularly. He acts like he's on a power trip, however I think his main problem is a total lack of communication skills. I'm not sure whether he just needs a little tutoring or is a lost cause.

Isoproturon1

3,640 posts

232 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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I think there is one like that in every nick. Ours is a total jobsworth, attracts more complaints than the regulars, and is - quite frankly - embarassing to work with at times.

One of the problems with Specials is the out-moded image of well-meaning uniform carriers wandering around the village fete. There are still some like that, but many of us who are performing the same sort of role as regulars - including being assaulted, going to court, doing the paperwork, and generally fitting in to the team.

PCSOs on the other hand...

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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My bother in law has a few of the Specials in his station. 2 of them got in a fight in the carpark because they could agree who would get to drive a car to another station. Another one tried to place one of his colleagues under citizens arrest for calling him a plonker IIRC

JulianHJ

8,871 posts

293 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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bga said:
My bother in law has a few of the Specials in his station. 2 of them got in a fight in the carpark because they could agree who would get to drive a car to another station. Another one tried to place one of his colleagues under citizens arrest for calling him a plonker IIRC
yikes All shown the door I trust?

TheCarpetCleaner

Original Poster:

7,294 posts

233 months

Monday 17th September 2007
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JulianHJ said:
bga said:
My bother in law has a few of the Specials in his station. 2 of them got in a fight in the carpark because they could agree who would get to drive a car to another station. Another one tried to place one of his colleagues under citizens arrest for calling him a plonker IIRC
yikes All shown the door I trust?
No apparently one became the Chief Constable of North Wales, and the other became the head of the local Speed Camera Partnership... rolleyeshehe