ASDA to fine disabled parking bay users
Discussion
Obviously the ones that don't have a disabled badge:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1017...
This could be interesting. Remember that ASDA is owned by Wal-Mart, a company not known for its profligacy.
I think it would still be covered by contract law, which essentially means that its very likely completely unenforceable (from anecdotal evidence)?
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1017...
This could be interesting. Remember that ASDA is owned by Wal-Mart, a company not known for its profligacy.
I think it would still be covered by contract law, which essentially means that its very likely completely unenforceable (from anecdotal evidence)?
It's a parking slot for DISABLED people. They're wider so wheelchairs can be got out etc. My daughter is disabled and to see her struggle trying to get her wheelchair out in normal width parking spaces, makes my p**s boil, because some T**t has pinched a disabled slot. Me? I'd lay a £100-00 fine on them
and smash their knee-caps with a baseball bat and put THEM in a wheelchair, but not give them a disabled parking badge.
Rant over.
Pookie
and smash their knee-caps with a baseball bat and put THEM in a wheelchair, but not give them a disabled parking badge.
Rant over.
Pookie
Rant Mode On 
There are great disadvantages in being disabled.
There are advantages in concessions and consideration, which try to compensate, or at least ameliorate, the effects of disability.
If you can get the latter advantages without the disadvantages of the former, that would be good wouldn't it?
Not under my rules it wouldn't.
Example...Unauthorised Parking in disabled spot - Penalty: One year in prison, making aluminium walking sticks.
You need to be old to remember the old blue, sliding door, 250cc two-stroke A.C. three wheeled cars for the disabled? They were terrible, and cost about as much as a Ford Cortina. So it’s much better for disabled people's cars to be normal models.
I am surprised though that many seem to be top of the range, pretty powerful. Can't be for fetching paving slabs, or carrying the tools for a scaffolder. I would have thought Micra's would have done. It may be (I don't actually know how it works) that extra money can be contributed by the disabled person to a basic amount provided by the Department of Providing the Basic Amount, to get a better car. Perhaps the amount allowed should shrink by the amount added. At the extreme, buying the whole car themselves. We should remember that the money to buy these cars is provided by a low paid couple called Mark and Laura, with two small children, in a starter home, who look down the side of their settee every Thursday for lost change. They have a G reg.Fiesta.
I believe that more than one in ten (I'm not sure of any facts on this subject.) people are registered disabled. It seems a lot until you see the number of cars with disabled badges that park in City Centres. I wonder why all these disabled persons shop in the Centre of the City? It can't be easy for them, you need to be fairly able-bodied to survive in the madding crowd. I suppose it’s not so bad in fact, as normal parking becomes more and more difficult, so City Centres are becoming the preserves of the disabled. It may become an exclusive area with a preponderance of wheelchair and hearing aid shops.
There are two different badges for parking privilege, Orange or Green. I don't really understand the logic of that. Either you are disabled or you are not. We could progress through various colours to a purple badge for being a bit rough on Monday Mornings.
You can't check on the people who park in disabled spaces for two reasons. First, if they are disabled you look pretty bad. If they are not disabled then their general level of reasonableness is likely to be very low, and they would probably have as little compunction in beating you up, as they had in parking there in the first place. Incidentally, if they say they were just nipping in for something and wouldn't be a minute, then the one year sentence in my Court is automatically doubled. To stop all this let us develop a microchip for all cars, to radiate ‘disabled’or ‘non disabled’. Easy enough. A chip implanted in the car parks reads the chips in the cars. A Non-Disabled car in Disabled space is detected. Result, jagged ramps rise, car immovable, Police only can remove. In all cases chummy is soon banged up in special chokey making the walking sticks and zimmer frames.
I will be accused of lack of sympathy won't I? If a brief explanation will help this is it. I wish to be as hard as possible on abuse by the able-bodied of the facilities provided for the disabled, and vice-versa.
Rant Over
There are great disadvantages in being disabled.
There are advantages in concessions and consideration, which try to compensate, or at least ameliorate, the effects of disability.
If you can get the latter advantages without the disadvantages of the former, that would be good wouldn't it?
Not under my rules it wouldn't.
Example...Unauthorised Parking in disabled spot - Penalty: One year in prison, making aluminium walking sticks.
You need to be old to remember the old blue, sliding door, 250cc two-stroke A.C. three wheeled cars for the disabled? They were terrible, and cost about as much as a Ford Cortina. So it’s much better for disabled people's cars to be normal models.
I am surprised though that many seem to be top of the range, pretty powerful. Can't be for fetching paving slabs, or carrying the tools for a scaffolder. I would have thought Micra's would have done. It may be (I don't actually know how it works) that extra money can be contributed by the disabled person to a basic amount provided by the Department of Providing the Basic Amount, to get a better car. Perhaps the amount allowed should shrink by the amount added. At the extreme, buying the whole car themselves. We should remember that the money to buy these cars is provided by a low paid couple called Mark and Laura, with two small children, in a starter home, who look down the side of their settee every Thursday for lost change. They have a G reg.Fiesta.
I believe that more than one in ten (I'm not sure of any facts on this subject.) people are registered disabled. It seems a lot until you see the number of cars with disabled badges that park in City Centres. I wonder why all these disabled persons shop in the Centre of the City? It can't be easy for them, you need to be fairly able-bodied to survive in the madding crowd. I suppose it’s not so bad in fact, as normal parking becomes more and more difficult, so City Centres are becoming the preserves of the disabled. It may become an exclusive area with a preponderance of wheelchair and hearing aid shops.
There are two different badges for parking privilege, Orange or Green. I don't really understand the logic of that. Either you are disabled or you are not. We could progress through various colours to a purple badge for being a bit rough on Monday Mornings.
You can't check on the people who park in disabled spaces for two reasons. First, if they are disabled you look pretty bad. If they are not disabled then their general level of reasonableness is likely to be very low, and they would probably have as little compunction in beating you up, as they had in parking there in the first place. Incidentally, if they say they were just nipping in for something and wouldn't be a minute, then the one year sentence in my Court is automatically doubled. To stop all this let us develop a microchip for all cars, to radiate ‘disabled’or ‘non disabled’. Easy enough. A chip implanted in the car parks reads the chips in the cars. A Non-Disabled car in Disabled space is detected. Result, jagged ramps rise, car immovable, Police only can remove. In all cases chummy is soon banged up in special chokey making the walking sticks and zimmer frames.
I will be accused of lack of sympathy won't I? If a brief explanation will help this is it. I wish to be as hard as possible on abuse by the able-bodied of the facilities provided for the disabled, and vice-versa.
Rant Over
peterperkins said:
Rant Mode On
There are great disadvantages in being disabled.
There are advantages in concessions and consideration, which try to compensate, or at least ameliorate, the effects of disability.
If you can get the latter advantages without the disadvantages of the former, that would be good wouldn't it?
Not under my rules it wouldn't.
Example...Unauthorised Parking in disabled spot - Penalty: One year in prison, making aluminium walking sticks.
You need to be old to remember the old blue, sliding door, 250cc two-stroke A.C. three wheeled cars for the disabled? They were terrible, and cost about as much as a Ford Cortina. So it’s much better for disabled people's cars to be normal models.
I am surprised though that many seem to be top of the range, pretty powerful. Can't be for fetching paving slabs, or carrying the tools for a scaffolder. I would have thought Micra's would have done. It may be (I don't actually know how it works) that extra money can be contributed by the disabled person to a basic amount provided by the Department of Providing the Basic Amount, to get a better car. Perhaps the amount allowed should shrink by the amount added. At the extreme, buying the whole car themselves. We should remember that the money to buy these cars is provided by a low paid couple called Mark and Laura, with two small children, in a starter home, who look down the side of their settee every Thursday for lost change. They have a G reg.Fiesta.
I believe that more than one in ten (I'm not sure of any facts on this subject.) people are registered disabled. It seems a lot until you see the number of cars with disabled badges that park in City Centres. I wonder why all these disabled persons shop in the Centre of the City? It can't be easy for them, you need to be fairly able-bodied to survive in the madding crowd. I suppose it’s not so bad in fact, as normal parking becomes more and more difficult, so City Centres are becoming the preserves of the disabled. It may become an exclusive area with a preponderance of wheelchair and hearing aid shops.
There are two different badges for parking privilege, Orange or Green. I don't really understand the logic of that. Either you are disabled or you are not. We could progress through various colours to a purple badge for being a bit rough on Monday Mornings.
You can't check on the people who park in disabled spaces for two reasons. First, if they are disabled you look pretty bad. If they are not disabled then their general level of reasonableness is likely to be very low, and they would probably have as little compunction in beating you up, as they had in parking there in the first place. Incidentally, if they say they were just nipping in for something and wouldn't be a minute, then the one year sentence in my Court is automatically doubled. To stop all this let us develop a microchip for all cars, to radiate ‘disabled’or ‘non disabled’. Easy enough. A chip implanted in the car parks reads the chips in the cars. A Non-Disabled car in Disabled space is detected. Result, jagged ramps rise, car immovable, Police only can remove. In all cases chummy is soon banged up in special chokey making the walking sticks and zimmer frames.
I will be accused of lack of sympathy won't I? If a brief explanation will help this is it. I wish to be as hard as possible on abuse by the able-bodied of the facilities provided for the disabled, and vice-versa.
Rant Over
Does not work like that. Blue Badge holder may not drive. He or she could be old or a child or unable to drive. They with different members of family or with a different carer perhaps. The Blue Badge used only if the holder in that vehicle. Not that many bays in reality either - though I think ASDSA etc do have more than most close up to their more modern custom built out of town centre stores There are great disadvantages in being disabled.
There are advantages in concessions and consideration, which try to compensate, or at least ameliorate, the effects of disability.
If you can get the latter advantages without the disadvantages of the former, that would be good wouldn't it?
Not under my rules it wouldn't.
Example...Unauthorised Parking in disabled spot - Penalty: One year in prison, making aluminium walking sticks.
You need to be old to remember the old blue, sliding door, 250cc two-stroke A.C. three wheeled cars for the disabled? They were terrible, and cost about as much as a Ford Cortina. So it’s much better for disabled people's cars to be normal models.
I am surprised though that many seem to be top of the range, pretty powerful. Can't be for fetching paving slabs, or carrying the tools for a scaffolder. I would have thought Micra's would have done. It may be (I don't actually know how it works) that extra money can be contributed by the disabled person to a basic amount provided by the Department of Providing the Basic Amount, to get a better car. Perhaps the amount allowed should shrink by the amount added. At the extreme, buying the whole car themselves. We should remember that the money to buy these cars is provided by a low paid couple called Mark and Laura, with two small children, in a starter home, who look down the side of their settee every Thursday for lost change. They have a G reg.Fiesta.
I believe that more than one in ten (I'm not sure of any facts on this subject.) people are registered disabled. It seems a lot until you see the number of cars with disabled badges that park in City Centres. I wonder why all these disabled persons shop in the Centre of the City? It can't be easy for them, you need to be fairly able-bodied to survive in the madding crowd. I suppose it’s not so bad in fact, as normal parking becomes more and more difficult, so City Centres are becoming the preserves of the disabled. It may become an exclusive area with a preponderance of wheelchair and hearing aid shops.
There are two different badges for parking privilege, Orange or Green. I don't really understand the logic of that. Either you are disabled or you are not. We could progress through various colours to a purple badge for being a bit rough on Monday Mornings.
You can't check on the people who park in disabled spaces for two reasons. First, if they are disabled you look pretty bad. If they are not disabled then their general level of reasonableness is likely to be very low, and they would probably have as little compunction in beating you up, as they had in parking there in the first place. Incidentally, if they say they were just nipping in for something and wouldn't be a minute, then the one year sentence in my Court is automatically doubled. To stop all this let us develop a microchip for all cars, to radiate ‘disabled’or ‘non disabled’. Easy enough. A chip implanted in the car parks reads the chips in the cars. A Non-Disabled car in Disabled space is detected. Result, jagged ramps rise, car immovable, Police only can remove. In all cases chummy is soon banged up in special chokey making the walking sticks and zimmer frames.
I will be accused of lack of sympathy won't I? If a brief explanation will help this is it. I wish to be as hard as possible on abuse by the able-bodied of the facilities provided for the disabled, and vice-versa.
Rant Over
I do not use the Mama/Child bays. I always find best to park up away from folk who might dent my motor car. I find I have enough space to control the kittens/youngest's buggy if parked up in lesser populated zone which require a little walk
If they made the required number of bays not some enormous quantity dictated by political correctness then they wouldn't stand 80% empty like they usually do.
And in any case, if I'm not allowed to park in one then neither should the able bodied relatives/friends of disabled people abusing the badges, then we'd need less anyway.
I very often and shall continue to park in the spot furthest from the shop when there are 1/2 dozen or more free ones. Why? Because it does absolutely no harm whatsoever to anybody at all. Apart from the pointless "appeasers" we have to endure who aren't actually affected but feel the need to bleat on "on behalf of those less fortunate".
In fact these do-gooders (many of whom are found contributing to this thread) are a cancer rife in Britain at the moment pedalling their political correct busy bodying nonsense and causing grief.
SM
And in any case, if I'm not allowed to park in one then neither should the able bodied relatives/friends of disabled people abusing the badges, then we'd need less anyway.
I very often and shall continue to park in the spot furthest from the shop when there are 1/2 dozen or more free ones. Why? Because it does absolutely no harm whatsoever to anybody at all. Apart from the pointless "appeasers" we have to endure who aren't actually affected but feel the need to bleat on "on behalf of those less fortunate".
In fact these do-gooders (many of whom are found contributing to this thread) are a cancer rife in Britain at the moment pedalling their political correct busy bodying nonsense and causing grief.
SM
I used to have this inner-wrangle with myself when I worked in a building very under-served with toilets. There was one ladies loo, one gents loo and one disabled loo. All were single seaters.
If there was someone in the gents, I would use the disabled one rather than wait.
My thinking was that as unfortunate as it is to be disabled, I don’t believe that disabled people have any more right to a timely shit than I do, and that if one disabled person was in there they would have to wait, just like I would for the gents.
Ergo it doesn’t matter if they are waiting for me to finish, or another disabled person. Waiting is waiting.
It didn’t stop the daily mail types glaring at me as I came out though.
If there was someone in the gents, I would use the disabled one rather than wait.
My thinking was that as unfortunate as it is to be disabled, I don’t believe that disabled people have any more right to a timely shit than I do, and that if one disabled person was in there they would have to wait, just like I would for the gents.
Ergo it doesn’t matter if they are waiting for me to finish, or another disabled person. Waiting is waiting.
It didn’t stop the daily mail types glaring at me as I came out though.
supermono said:
If they made the required number of bays not some enormous quantity dictated by political correctness then they wouldn't stand 80% empty like they usually do.
So. For most of the year Disabled bays mean nothing to me. I don't use them because I'm not disabled. I don't have kids so I don't use Parents and Kids bays either.
But at my supermarket 90% of those spaces go unused 90% of the time.
Twice a year, though, my Disabled Mum visits. So we park in disabled bays then. Know what? Its no help. The disabled bays are surrounded by a kerb that stops you using a wheelchair (luckily she walks with the aid of a stick) and are no closer than the "pick up drop off" area - WHICH IS FULL OF
ING S WHO HAVE DECIDED THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVERYONE ELSE THEY CAN ING PARK THERE.WHAT? Can't they
ing read? It says "PICK UP DROP OFF". It does not say "ONLY IN FOR A PACK OF FAGS". It does not say "PARKING AREA FOR PEOPLE SHORT OF TIME". It does not say "S ONLY" - although it should.So when I want to "DROP OFF" my poor old Mum who staggers slowly about then go park in an honsest-to-goodness-ordinary-space I
ing well can't because its completely full of Chavmobiles and Chelsea Tractors - instead we have to park miles from the door and take a packed lunch so she can make the journey across the car park.S!
abled bodied pointless appeaser said:
To all the critics of this on here, disabled bays are for people with Disabilities NUFF said good on Asda I say, I would clamp ANY vehicle parked in there not showing a Blue Badge.
Have we become so pathetic as a nation that anyone seeking to assist the weakest and most vulnerable in society are now fair game for Criticism?
Their motives MAY be less than pure (I can't say) but if the net effect is to make it easier for those more disadvantaged then good on them!!
Cheers
Tom
See what I mean? They're a cancer.Have we become so pathetic as a nation that anyone seeking to assist the weakest and most vulnerable in society are now fair game for Criticism?
Their motives MAY be less than pure (I can't say) but if the net effect is to make it easier for those more disadvantaged then good on them!!
Cheers
Tom
SM
Edited by supermono on Thursday 27th September 10:13
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