CCTV / 'moving traffic contravention'

[tomtom]

Do our lovely councils of the capital have the '14 day' rule to get these out to you?

Lambeth Council can off.

[Parrot of Doom]

www.pepipoo.com

[vonhosen]

14 day rule (NIPs) not applicable.

[Puddenchucker]

vonhosen said:

14 day rule (NIPs) not applicable.

Why? What's different about an alleged traffic offence detected by Council CCTV as opposed to one captured on a Police or Camera Partnership device?

[vonhosen]

Puddenchucker said:

vonhosen said:

14 day rule (NIPs) not applicable.

Why? What's different about an alleged traffic offence detected by Council CCTV as opposed to one captured on a Police or Camera Partnership device?

Firstly not all traffic offences require NIPs to be sent out, only a limited number.

Secondly, council enforcement in such a fashion is not going to a criminal court & is not a fine levied on the driver (it's not being dealt with as a criminal allegation such as those enforced by SCPs & Police). It's a penalty charge notice that is levied on the registered keeper.

[Andrew D]

vonhosen said:

Firstly not all traffic offences require NIPs to be sent out, only a limited number.

Secondly, council enforcement in such a fashion is not going to a criminal court & is not a fine levied on the driver (it's not being dealt with as a criminal allegation such as those enforced by SCPs & Police). It's a penalty charge notice that is levied on the registered keeper.

So is this one of those de-criminalised parking things?

[Puddenchucker]

vonhosen said:

Secondly, council enforcement in such a fashion is not going to a criminal court & is not a fine levied on the driver (it's not being dealt with as a criminal allegation such as those enforced by SCPs & Police). It's a penalty charge notice that is levied on the registered keeper.

OK Thanks, that makes sense.

Do such penalty notices still have to be sent out within a 'reasonable' time?

[vonhosen]

Andrew D said:

vonhosen said:

Firstly not all traffic offences require NIPs to be sent out, only a limited number.

Secondly, council enforcement in such a fashion is not going to a criminal court & is not a fine levied on the driver (it's not being dealt with as a criminal allegation such as those enforced by SCPs & Police). It's a penalty charge notice that is levied on the registered keeper.

So is this one of those de-criminalised parking things?

There are quite a few offences that can either be dealt with criminally by the Police or as Penalty charge notice by the local authority. They can give you a PCN for offences such as parking on a pedestrian crossing, no left turn, no right turn, no u turn, box junctions , bus lanes etc etc.

[vonhosen]

Puddenchucker said:

vonhosen said:

Secondly, council enforcement in such a fashion is not going to a criminal court & is not a fine levied on the driver (it's not being dealt with as a criminal allegation such as those enforced by SCPs & Police). It's a penalty charge notice that is levied on the registered keeper.

OK Thanks, that makes sense.

Do such penalty notices still have to be sent out within a 'reasonable' time?

Yes.

[tomtom]

But what constitutes a 'reasonable time'?