Filming the police - Legal?
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Just seen this over on the 205 Gti drivers forum.
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/240907_uk_film...
Looks like the police got it wrong on this occasion! Mind you, I think the bloke filming is trying his best to wind them up towards the end of the film!
Ben
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/240907_uk_film...
Looks like the police got it wrong on this occasion! Mind you, I think the bloke filming is trying his best to wind them up towards the end of the film!
Ben
I think he was pushing his luck a bit - although I don't think he did anything wrong, other than taking the p*** a little...but hey ho.
Interesting that they refused to give their names when asked - I would have thought that they should, or their number?
Still - it's not like a police officer to just make up the law on the street and then tell a MoP that they are breaking the law, only to then be told they're wrong, is it?
Interesting that they refused to give their names when asked - I would have thought that they should, or their number?
Still - it's not like a police officer to just make up the law on the street and then tell a MoP that they are breaking the law, only to then be told they're wrong, is it?
Now 10 and Brother. Can you keep your dispute to one thread. Let someone else pick up on Brothers comments this time. It's only fair.
The bloke filming although not the best english speaker has made his point quite well. We should be a able to film the actions of police in the public domain, and if they dont like that then the question should be "why?". We shouldn't get in the way of them doing their duty, and he didn't they came to him. You cant have coppers going around stating things are an offence when they are not!
The bloke filming although not the best english speaker has made his point quite well. We should be a able to film the actions of police in the public domain, and if they dont like that then the question should be "why?". We shouldn't get in the way of them doing their duty, and he didn't they came to him. You cant have coppers going around stating things are an offence when they are not!
10 Pence Short said:
I thought it was a sad state of affairs when the Officers were adamant it was illegal. Then didn't know under what act. Then got the awful truth from base.
Innocent until proven guilty?? 10 Pence Short said:
It didn't help that the guy filming was a bit of a knob, either.
Agreed - although I think he was 100% reasonable, up until they walked away and ignored him, at which point he was being a bit of a knob.TTwiggy said:
It'll probably just be a matter of time before either the public order act, or anti-terrorism laws are ammended to make it illegal to film the police... 
The great irony of that would be that we are observed constantly 'for our own good' yet the observers and their cohorts can't be. tigger1 said:
10 Pence Short said:
I thought it was a sad state of affairs when the Officers were adamant it was illegal. Then didn't know under what act. Then got the awful truth from base.
Innocent until proven guilty?? 10 Pence Short said:
It didn't help that the guy filming was a bit of a knob, either.
Agreed - although I think he was 100% reasonable, up until they walked away and ignored him, at which point he was being a bit of a knob.It MIGHT be that the filmer is known to them, but from their actions, it didn't look like it.
When you watch Street Wars and some scrote objects to being filmed the standard BiB response is that the cameraman is allowed to film in public - therefore the guy with the camera was perfectly entitled to film the plod. It looked like the plod were trying to goad him into biting back. Where was the apology from the plod at the end of that??? Nothing, just walked off....
People don't like the embarassment of being proved wrong, esp. in public. Even coppers.
The difference is that coppers should be trained to rise above it, and certainly not to abuse their position...
...unlike MPs, who when proved wrong just ignore it completely and carry on as if they were right...imagine what the country would be like if coppers ALL acted in the same manner as MPs/Ministers?!?
The difference is that coppers should be trained to rise above it, and certainly not to abuse their position...
...unlike MPs, who when proved wrong just ignore it completely and carry on as if they were right...imagine what the country would be like if coppers ALL acted in the same manner as MPs/Ministers?!?
The guy didn't commit any offences, even under the elastic public order legislation. The two officers in the film were completely and utterly in the wrong from that video. Rather than admit they were wrong, apologise and carry on with their jobs they made an issue of it which played right into the hands of the pillock with the camera.
Brother Mycroft said:
TTwiggy said:
It'll probably just be a matter of time before either the public order act, or anti-terrorism laws are ammended to make it illegal to film the police...
The great irony of that would be that we are observed constantly 'for our own good' yet the observers and their cohorts can't be. I would say the really sad thing is that it probably IS covered by the all singing all dancing anti-terrorism laws.
The female PC was well out of line (IMHO) in trying to bait the guy into saying something when all he had said was "the camera will pick that up better than his ears" upon overhearing the guy at the station on the radio.
Now, that in itself does bring up the minor issue that the male PC knew that the electronic communication was being recorded, and both sides could be heard / recorded, yet he failed to tell the person at the other end. At this point, the cameraman *might* actual;y (IANAL!) be in breach of a law or two. (But that's soooo off-topic!)
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